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  • The Apostles Creed We Believe He Rose from the Dead

    The Apostles Creed We Believe He Rose from the Dead

    Followers of Christ must always expect an attack against Scripture. Church doctrine is a line in the sand. - How will a leader or council of leaders choose what the Church will teach?
    I BELIEVE or WE BELIEVE IN:

    Here’s a brief outline of the fundamental objects of our faith found in The Creed:

    1. God
    2. Jesus Christ
    3. the Holy Spirit
      • and the Virgin Mary
    4. Jesus was crucified
      • and was buried
    5. He rose from the dead
    6. more..

    source: apostles-creed.org


    The Apostles’ Creed

    Our outline above used for this SERIES taken from the Old Roman Creed (vide ante) from which the Apostles’ Creed was adapted and possibly in use before the mid-2nd century.


    The Apostles’ Creed and other affirmations of faith were adopted corporately by the Church to refute permeating heresies plaguing believers since the time of the Apostles.

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    The Apostles Creed

    He rose! Is there Life after Death?

    Jesus frequently had asked, “Have you never read the Scriptures?”

    One of the great Jewish divisions in doctrine had been that many did not believe in life after death. But some of the Pharisees, like Nicodemus, believed that the body and soul rose from death at the Last Day.

    In fact, recent evidence had been overwhelming, since Lazarus rose from his grave in nearby Bethany.

    Temporary Resurrections until a later death.

    “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I go to awaken him.”

    .. Then Jesus told them plainly, “Lazarus has died,

    Now when Jesus came, he found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb four days.

    Jesus said to her [Martha], “Your brother will rise again.”

    Now listen carefully to Martha's response:

    Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.”

    Gospel of John 11:11-24 excerpts ESV

    Jesus said to her,

    “I am the resurrection
    and the life.
    Whoever believes in me, though he die,
    yet shall he live,
    and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die.
    Do you believe this?”

    Gospel of John 11:25-26 ESV

    She said to him,

    “Yes, Lord; I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who is coming into the world.”

    John 11:27 ESV

    Lazarus rose.. and then Jesus would rise that all might live.

    Martha and Mary could not have known what was about to take place at the command of Christ calling her brother from his tomb.

    Then Jesus, deeply moved again, came to the tomb. It was a cave, and a stone lay against it.

    Jesus said, “Take away the stone.”

    .. he cried out with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out.”

    The man who had died came out…

    John 11:38-44 excerpt ESV

    Lazarus, Mary and Martha could not have known that their friend Jesus, the Son of God, would soon enter Jerusalem, followed by adoring crowds. Or that He would be crucified, dead and buried.

    But then He too rose from the grave, as all had just witnessed of Lazarus at the command of Christ.

    Yet neither that of Lazarus or of Christ is the resurrection of the Last Day.


    Hell, the dead and waiting…

    What happens after we die?

    Some versions of the Creeds omit, “He descended into Hell” or “He descended to the dead.”

    Even the Catholic Church later minimized the punishment and depth of the pit of purchased sins.

    While there are many that deny Heaven, Hell, or both, the Bible teaches that the righteous go to eternal life and the unrighteous to eternal destruction. Jesus said,

    “And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Matt 25:46 NAS)

    MORE from source Apostles-Creed.org

    Jesus has returned from the grave! What Next?

    Mary and John had witnessed the death of her Son and his Master, Lord and friend. Lazarus has risen to witness his friend — the all-powerful Son of God who had called him out of the grave.

    Once again, JESUS — in His resurrected body — would touch, teach and influence hundreds of disciples who would follow Him to the death.. and eternal life.

    But what about you? — Do you embrace an Apostolic faith confirmed in the Apostles’ Creed?

    • The Scriptures teach Christ went to Sheol or Hades.
    • The word “Hell” is the specific location where sinners go for punishment.
      • “Gehenna” in Greek.. was an actual valley outside of old Jerusalem that was a smoldering garbage dump at the time of Jesus.
      • Hell is also the Greek word “Tartaros.” It is the name of the subterranean region, doleful and dark, regarded by the ancient Greeks as the abode of the wicked dead, where they suffer punishment for their evil deeds.
    • The penalty for our sin is not only dying, its remaining dead and suffering the eternal punishment of God.

    Christ could only do this because He is fully God and Man.

    More from source Apostles-Creed.org


    “I am the resurrection
    and the life.
    Whoever believes in me, though he die,
    yet shall he live,
    and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die.
    Do you believe this?”

    Gospel of John 11:25-26 ESV

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  • The Apostles Creed 4 JESUS Crucified and Buried

    The Apostles Creed 4 JESUS Crucified and Buried

    The Apostles’ Creed — foundational to our Apostolic Christian faith

    Followers of Christ must always expect an attack against Scripture. Church doctrine is a line in the sand. - How will a leader or council of leaders choose what the Church will teach?
    I BELIEVE or WE BELIEVE IN:

    We believe Jesus Christ was crucified, died, and was buried.

    Here’s a brief outline of the fundamental objects of our faith found in The Creed:

    1. God
    2. Jesus Christ
    3. the Holy Spirit
      • and the Virgin Mary
    4. Jesus was crucified
      • and was buried
    5. more…

    source: apostles-creed.org


    The early church taught what is basically in the Apostles creed

    It was not till heresies and divisions in the church that any creeds were established.

    source:

    The Apostles’ Creed

    Our outline above used for this SERIES taken from the Old Roman Creed (vide ante) from which the Apostles’ Creed was adapted and possibly in use before the mid-2nd century.


    The Apostles’ Creed and other affirmations of faith were adopted corporately by the Church to refute permeating heresies plaguing believers since the time of the Apostles.

    Roger@TalkofJesus.com


    The Apostles Creed

    I believe:

    Jesus Christ suffered and died…


    Do some not believe, though the historical evidence of the facts overwhelmingly support the Gospel accounts?

    YES, because the Spirit of God has not revealed to them the significance of the Messiah Jesus, the Son of God SUFFERING or His role of sacrifice and redemption as the “Son of Man.”

    As Scripture states:

    GOD IS ONE IN ESSENCE,

    and as the Gospel reveals,

    THREE IN PERSON.

    More on Trinity from R.C. Sproul


    The apostate, heretic and pagan alike create a god, goddess or false prophet of their own liking — an idol to follow into the abyss of sin’s punishment — in deference to the One God and Lord Jesus Christ.

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    New Testimony of John (witness of Yeshua):

    Gospel of John 1:10-12 Hebrew Names Version

    From his fullness we all received grace upon grace. For the law was given through Moshe.

    Grace and truth came through Yeshua the Messiah.

    No one has seen God at any time.

    The one and only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.

    Gospel of John 1:16-18 HNV


    suffered under Pontius Pilate

    Pilate therefore entered again into the Praetorium, called Yeshua, and said to him,

    “Are you the King of the Yehudim?”

    Yeshua answered him, “Do you say this by yourself, or did others tell you about me?”

    Pilate answered, “I’m not a Yehudi, am I? Your own nation and the chief Kohanim delivered you to me. What have you done?”

    Yeshua answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, then my servants would fight, that I wouldn’t be delivered to the Yehudim. But now my kingdom is not from here.”

    Pilate therefore said to him, “Are you a king then?”

    Yeshua answered, “You say that I am a king. For this reason I have been born, and for this reason I have come into the world, that I should testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.”

    “I AM the way, the truth, and the life…”

    Pilate said to him, “What is truth?”

    Gospel of John 18:33-38a HNV


    Is this not the first question asked by those who question the truth of Scripture and the Lord Jesus Christ?

    Therefore, WE will pick and choose what we will believe from the Bible.


    Pilate said to them,

    “Shall I crucify your King?”

    “Hail, King of the Yehudim!”

    Don’t you know that I have power to release you, and have power to crucify you?”

    Yeshua answered,

    “You would have no power at all against me, unless it were given to you from above. Therefore he who delivered me to you has greater sin.”

    Gospel of John 19: excerpts Hebrew Names Version


    The Christ of God, of course, refers to the one of the Twelve who had betrayed JESUS, because He was not the King who would follow the whims of religious nationalism. (Judea would not have JESUS to lead them to expel Rome.)

    was crucified

    Jesus nailed to the Cross

    ..Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Yeshua, took his garments and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also the coat.

    But there were standing by the cross of Yeshua his mother, and his mother’s sister, Miryam the wife of Klofah, and Miryam from Magdala…

    John 19:30b HNV


    So they took Yeshua’s body, and bound it in linen cloths with the spices, as the custom of the Yehudim is to bury…

    two Roman soldiers standing by fire at night by Jesus' tomb

    Then because of the Yehudim’ Preparation Day (for the tomb was near at hand) they laid Yeshua there.

    Gospel of John 19:Hebrew Names Version


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    The Son of Man — born of the virgin Mary some thirty years before — the Son of God who the angel told would overshadow her and she would bear Him — DEAD! gruesomely crucified and nailed to and hung from a Roman cross!

    Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. - Jesus in a manger and the lamb of sacrifice on a cross

    next – in the Apostles’ Creed

    an ANSWER

    after three days in the tomb of JESUS…

  • The Apostles Creed 3- Christ Conceived by the Holy Spirit

    The Apostles Creed 3- Christ Conceived by the Holy Spirit

    The Apostles’ Creed is foundational to our Apostolic Christian faith (even though Jesus’ Twelve Apostles did NOT write it).


    Creeds and Credo

    How do we know if our fellow worshipers also believe what we do?

    Although creeds were originally individual (credo from the Latin, I believe), they shortly became statements of doctrine in which groups set forth their essential beliefs.

    Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible, Tenney, v.1,p.1025

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    • YOU witness publicly in worship of the LORD GOD that WE believe in this.
    • So, DO YOU?

    Structure of Christian CREEDS

    We believe in…

    Here’s a brief outline of the fundamental objects of our faith found in The Creed:

    Followers of Christ must always expect an attack against Scripture. Church doctrine is a line in the sand. - How will a leader or council of leaders choose what the Church will teach?
    I BELIEVE or WE BELIEVE IN:
    1. God
    2. Jesus Christ
    3. the Holy Spirit
      • and the Virgin Mary

    The Apostles’ Creed and other affirmations of faith were adopted corporately by the Church to refute permeating heresies plaguing believers since the time of the Apostles.

    Roger@TalkofJesus.com


    The Apostles Creed

    I believe in

    God the Holy Spirit


    What do we believe about the Holy Spirit?

    Q36 of the New City Catechism

    Kid’s Answer:

    That he is God, coeternal with the Father and the Son.

    Of course any simple or complex answer falls short of describing the Eternal God. A reminder about God and Trinity:

    As Scripture states:

    GOD IS ONE IN ESSENCE,

    and as the Gospel reveals,

    THREE IN PERSON.

    More on Trinity from R.C. Sproul


    The Nature of Spirit – (Holy and familiar)

    Define God. 
    It's the question unanswerable that could lead us far beyond a limited glimpse of the Holy Spirit.

    But note Scriptures and definitions which attempt to show the unseen. (God, of course, is unseen and so is spirit.)

    Picture, if you will, the ether of a non-existant creation described in Genesis 1.

    rûaḥ ĕlōhîm – the Spirit of God – וְרוּחַ אֱלֹהִים

    • wind, breath, mind, spirit

    7. Spirit of God, the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son..

    G. never referred to as a depersonalised force.

    Source: BlueLetterBible.org Lexicon :: Strong’s H7307 – rûaḥ


    Yet no man explains the Holy Spirit (or the Father) better than JESUS, to whom the Father IS personal.

    Jesus answered [the Pharisee Nicodemus],

    “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which has been born of the flesh is flesh, and that which has been born of the Spirit is spirit.

    Gospel of John 3:5-6 LSB

    πνεῦμα – pneuma – Spirit is spirit

    Much more to study in the link above from Strong's G4151 

    Now the esteemed Pharisee Nicodemus would know both the Hebrew and Greek application of spirit. Yet here the Son of God instructs Nicodemus about the Holy Spirit.

    The Lord Jesus continues by describing spirit in general, referring to ‘wind‘,’ as does Moses in his Genesis 1 description of creation:

    “The wind G4151 blows where it wishes and you hear its sound, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who has been born of the Spirit G4151.”

    Gospel of John 3:8 LSB ref. Strong’s G4151 pneuma

    Most Bibles capitalize "Spirit" to mean the Holy Spirit and use "spirit" [small 's'] for the spirit of man, an angel, etc. 

    A Singular Role of the Spirit

    Think for a moment about the incarnation of the Son of Man.

    Can the LORD God not create whoever and whatever He wants in whatever manner God has desired?

    God has created spirit beings – angels – in which some do not believe.

    The Lord God has also created spirit beings who have (like adam) also sinned against God.

    (Scripture confirms such demons and devils wielding some influence over man. So does Jesus also speak of such unseen spirits of evil.

    And yet, just like the Person of the Holy Spirit some of you do NOT believe, neither do you believe in evil angels and demons exist.

    Jesus Christ, Who was Conceived by the Holy Spirit

    So what heresy is the Apostles’ Creed addressing here?

    Some deny that Almighty GodFather of all creation and all generations of adam — is capable of conceiving the Son of God as a second adam in the womb of a daughter of adam.

    Do you believe the account of Luke’s Gospel?

    But Mary said to the angel, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?” The angel answered and said to her,

    Born of the virgin Mary

    The Christ is born of a virgin, as prophesied — a humblest of births in a place also prophesied — providentially raised as a son of man.

    From the King James Version:

    And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

    And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

    For with God nothing shall be impossible.

    Mary believed the angel. 
    Do YOU believe that?

    Beginning of The Apostles’ Creed

    And Mary said,

    Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word.

    And the angel departed from her.

    Gospel of Luke 1:38 KJV


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