Category: Doctrine

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What do Christians believe?

Doctrine = Teaching

What do you know about Biblical teaching and preaching?

WHAT DOCTRINES DO YOU BELIVE?

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  • Jesus Christ 2 the Person and His Roles

    Jesus Christ 2 the Person and His Roles

    Who is this Jesus? Has God sent us the Christ – the anointed Messiah?

    God and The Person of JESUS

    JESUS IS and was and will be.

    Talk of JESUS .com Jesus Christ IS Lord – 1

    JESUS IS God! just as we introduced last time through the beginning in John’s Gospel — “..and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God..”

    “No one has ever yet seen God..”

    John 1:18a Berean Standard Bible

    Begotten, NOT made

    John continues [John 1:18 BLB].

    “.. the only begotten God who is in the bosom G2859 of the Father, He has explained Him.

    Gospel of John 1:18 LSB – Strong’s G2859 – kolpos – ‘the front of the body between the arms

    Look closely at John’s Gospel and understand that GOD IS ONE, yet God is a God of relationship – THREE PERSONS with very personal roles and relationships to created men and women.

    Jesus, himself, confessed:

    “I and the Father are one.”

    John 10:30

    the Personality of JESUS the Son

    • Can you attach a Personality to the Face of God who you cannot see?
    • Will you relate to a PILLAR OF FIRE or the unseen Hand of the whirlwind?

    God the Father of our Lord JESUS Christ reveals from His unseen ever-existence, two Personalities, a loving Father and His only Son, to which created mankind can relate in addition to His unseen Spirit-to-spirit power, Holy and separated from that which He has created.

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    Personality of sons and daughters of man

    per·son·al·i·ty (pûr′sə-nălĭ-tē) DEFINITION

    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition copyright ©2022 by HarperCollins Publishers. All rights reserved.

    Body, mind and spirit born of a woman

    1. The totality of qualities and traits, as of character or behavior, that are peculiar to a specific person.
    2. The collection of distinctive qualities of a person, especially those distinguishing personal characteristics that make one socially appealing
    3. The quality or condition of being a person.

    WE cannot comprehend the TOTALITY of the Personality of JESUS the SON of GOD any more than that of God the FATHER.


    Jesus IS God from God

    The PERSON of JESUS — perhaps a little difficult to understand, but we can relate to HIS relationship as SON of the One Father of all, even Almighty God.

    And as mysterious and illusive is God’s power, so we must hear from what God has said through Scripture about the Person of the Holy Spirit.

    Our basic CHRISTIAN teaching and belief, including study of GOD [theology] as THE TRINITY is outlined in several creeds of the church, including the NICENE CREED written by our Church fathers in A.D. 325.


    JESUS Christ explained by the Nicene Creed

    We believe in one God..

    And in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God,

    Begotten from the Father, only begotten,

    that is, from the substance of the Father,

    God from God, light from light, true God from true God,

    begotten not made,

    of one substance with the Father,

    through Whom all things came into being,

    things in heaven and things on earth…

    THINK about these TEACHINGS of our Church Fathers living just a few generations after the incarnate JESUS, Son of Man.

    Consider in your heart for a moment of our mortal time:
    WHY would GOD show His Face to mankind as a Son, our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST?
    • We cannot be like GOD; but why would GOD want to become as one of us?

    Why not consider JESUS in your heart rather than dismissing the God you cannot see simply in your self-created thoughts?

    JESUS the Person of relationship with our personality

    Hear the theology of our our Church fathers as you embrace the mystery of God in more of the Nicene Creed:

    Jesus Christ..

    Who because of us men and because of our salvation came down, and became incarnate

    [Embodied in human form; personified – American Heritage Dictionary]

    and became man,

    and suffered,

    and rose again on the third day, and ascended to the heavens,

    and will come to judge the living and dead

    JESUS.. the GOD-MAN!

    Returning to the unseen.. in the heavens..

    Christ ascended

    AND WILL COME AGAIN TO JUDGE THE LIVING AND THE DEAD..

    which is of course the ROLE and right of GOD ALMIGHTY, Creator of all men and Maker all things.


    the Role of Christ Jesus

    Even though we cannot fully understand incarnation, that is, GOD becoming a MAN — let’s not confuse the PERSON of JESUS (of one substance with the Father and the Holy Spirit) with the ROLES of JESUS.

    Χριστὸν – Christ

    And He [Jesus] said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”

    And Peter answered and said, “The Christ of God.”

    Gospel of Luke 9:20 LSB [vs. 18-20]

    Then he asked them, “But who do you say I am?”
    Peter replied, “You are the Messiah [Or the Christ. Messiah (a Hebrew term) and Christ (a Greek term) both mean “the anointed one.”] sent from God!”

    Gospel of Luke 9:20 New Living Translation


    MORE about JESUS the Messiah or Christ of God NEXT time, God-willing.

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  • Jesus Christ IS Lord – 1

    Jesus Christ IS Lord – 1

    Who IS JESUS?

    .. Grace to you and peace, from the One who is and who was and who is to come, .. and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

    The Revelation of Jesus Christ to John 1:4-5 excerpt LSB

    Our evangelism of the gospel may present the Lord Christ Jesus more casually than the scriptural truth that HE IS GOD!

    Christians and others sometimes talk of Jesus presumptively or perhaps even flippantly.

    JESUS IS! just as the LORD told the Hebrews through Moses the explanation,
    I AM THAT I AM!
    Exodus 3:14 KJV אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה


    JESUS defined

    Without quibbling over the hundreds of NAMES Christians use to proclaim JESUS to unbelievers, let’s simply DEFINE and consider these three I have chosen today:

    Ἰησοῦς

    The KJV translates Strong’s G2424 in the following manner: Jesus (972x), Jesus (Joshua) (2x), Jesus (Justus) (1x).

    John 1:10 NASA ISS image of earth

    Ἰησοῦς – Jesus

    Lexicon :: Strong's G2424 - iēsous

    Before, Then, Now & Forever

    According to the GOSPELS of JESUS CHRIST

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word [logos] was with God [theos], and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

    Gospel of John 1:1-4 NKJV

    And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

    Gospel of John 1:14 NKJV

    Human History: ~4 B.C – ~A.D. 30

    Consider the enduring testimony of Scripture recorded in approximately A.D. 50 through the A.D. 90's, soon after the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ more than 2000 years ago.

    The beginning of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. – Mark 1:1 [A.D. 50’s]


    Prologue of the Gospel of Luke:

    Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught.

    In the days of Herod, king of Judea .. – Luke 1:1-5a ESV [~A.D. 60-62]

    Βίβλος γενέσεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, υἱοῦ Δαβίδ, υἱοῦ Ἀβραάμ

    The book [Biblos] of the genealogy [genesis] of Jesus [iēsous] Christ [christos], the Son of David, the Son of Abraham:

    Matthew 1:1 [A.D. 60’s]


    Χριστοῦ – Christ

    [image of the Christ child] until Shiloh come and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Genesis 49:10 with picture of sleeping baby

    “Where is He that is born King of the Jews? – Matthew 2:2

    Pilate said to them, “Then, what shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ?”

    They all said, “Let Him be crucified!”

    Matthew 27:22  LSB, GNT

    λέγει αὐτοῖς ὁ Πιλᾶτος τί οὖν ποιήσω Ἰησοῦν τὸν λεγόμενον Χριστόν

    Behold the Man - Jesus before Pilate who said, Shall I crucify your King?

    Christ defined

    Post-Resurrection – from A.D. 30’s – to ???? eternity

    The BIBLE documents MANY post-resurrection appearances of the Lord Jesus Christ to the Apostles, Paul, and others.
    In about A.D. 55 the Apostle Paul writes: 

    After that He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep.

    1 Corinthians 15:6 LSB

    We may be familiar with the AWESOME appearance of JESUS to Saul [Paul] on a road to Damascus but read of a much later revelation of the risen Jesus to the Apostle John for UNDERSTANDING a more present, even future context of ALL CREATED MEN AND WOMEN appearing before the Throne of the Lord Christ Jesus!


    The Revelation of Jesus Christ

     ἀποκάλυψις Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ 

    When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead.

    But he laid his right hand on me, saying,

    “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.

    Revelation 1:17-18 ESV


    HEAR the Apostle John’s description of the Lord, SON OF MAN, as Jesus had described His Person born into this world, the same RISEN LORD John had witnessed some SIXTY YEARS before when he was a young Apostle.


    ~ A.D. 90-95

    .. and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden sash around his chest.

    The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength.

    The revelation of Jesus Christ to John 1:12b-16 ESV


    LORD, Lord, lord

    Fallen flesh resists JESUS as Lord, born in flesh and blood, the Son of Man dying in suffering flesh and sacrificed blood on a Cross.

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    Is JESUS your Lord?

    CREATED humankind have difficulty accepting ALMIGHTY GOD, born as a mere man, suffering for sinful souls condemned to death and hell.

    THEREFORE, WE who would be EQUAL to ALL resist following JESUS as Lord.


    Lord defined

    And Abraham answered and said, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord, although I am but dust and ashes.

    Genesis 18:27 LSB – אֲדֹנָי ‘ăḏōnāy

    And he said, “Blessed be Yahweh, the God of my master H113 Abraham, who has not forsaken His lovingkindness and His truth toward my master H113; as for me, Yahweh has guided me in the way to the house of my master’s H113 brothers.”

    Genesis 24:27 LSB – Lexicon :: Strong’s H113 – ‘āḏôn

    The unused root of [אֲדֹנָי ‘ăḏōnāy] used by Abram’s slave or servant referring to his owner:

    אָדוֹן

    The KJV translates Strong's H113 in the following manner: lord (197x), master(s) (105x), Lord (31x), owner (1x), sir (1x).

    Note the intended authority implied in each of these human roles, let alone those references to God:

    • firm, strong, lord, master

    • reference to men
      • superintendent of household, of affairs
      • master
      • king

    • reference to God
      • the Lord God
      • Lord of the whole earth

    • reference to men
      • proprietor of hill of Samaria
      • master
      • husband
      • prophet
      • governor
      • prince
      • king
      • father
      • Moses
      • priest
      • theophanic angel
      • captain
      • general recognition of superiority

    • reference to God
      • Lord of lords (probably = “thy husband, Yahweh”)
      • my Lord, my Lord and my God
      • Adonai (parallel with Yahweh)

    kyrios – Lord

    Moving from the Hebrew Scripture to the Greek of the New Testament we observe Jesus asking followers about their RELATIONAL loyalty to Him.

    “Now why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

    Gospel of Luke 6:46 LSB – QUESTION of JESUS for followers


    κύριος

    – From kuros (supremacy)

    κύριος kýrios, koo'-ree-os; from κῦρος kŷros (supremacy); 
    supreme in authority, i.e. (as noun) controller; by implication, Master (as a respectful title):—God, Lord, master, Sir.
    - source

    JESUS, Son of Man, the Son of God

    “I and the Father are one.”

    John 10:30 [Or a unityone essence}

    And they all said, “Are You the Son of God, then?” And He said to them, “You yourselves say that I am.”

    Luke 22:70

    “For just like the lightning, when it flashes out of one part of the sky, shines to the other part of the sky, so will the Son of Man be in His day.

    “But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. – Luke 17:24-25

    ἐγὼ τὸ Ἄλφα καὶ τὸ Ὦ ὁ πρῶτος καὶ ὁ ἔσχατος ἡ ἀρχὴ καὶ τὸ τέλος

    I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

    Revelation of Jesus Christ to John 22:13

    Jesus says to his disciples (followers): “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.John 14:6


    Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. – Revelation 22:14

    To be continued…

    NEXT: in Jesus Christ Lord part 2 – Christ, the Anointed One


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  • Doctrines of the Common Era

    Doctrines of the Common Era

    2025 Common Era christians only

    Are christian pulpits erasing Christ’s line in the shifting sands of Biblical DOCTRINE?


    SATURDAY Series – Biblical Jargon for Common Era Christians

    JAN & FEB 2025 CE

    FOR the first two months of 2025 C.E. we examined true teachings of the Bible to understanding a few COMMON christian terms.

    Take ANY commonly used christian jargon such as: gospel, grace, saved, redeemed, soul, flesh, sanctified, justified, forgiven, hell, heaven, lord, king, priest, prophet.. and MANY MORE..


    2024 C.E.

    Here’s a QUESTION for fellow believers about our terms of teaching, preaching and our personal fruit of the faith:

    How has DOCTRINE from Scripture evolved in two millennia of Church teaching into a blurred line in the sand erasing Biblical Truth?


    Which doctrines will fit into a Common Era culture that no longer lives in Truth or desires a relational church?

    Is YOUR Gospel simply GOOD NEWS for a COMMON ERA AUDIENCE to APPLAUD?


    IS corporate worship of JESUS Christ as God our Savior, the One Redeemer from SIN INCLUDED in YOUR Common Era evangelism?

    As a Christian follower of the Lord JESUS Christ, Roger invites you to examine our evolving COMMON ERA culture in ‘christian‘ worship and practice.

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    • Does worship by your church resist the temptation to ERASE Christ’s DOCTRINES commanded by Scripture?

    Compare and apply the teaching and preaching of

    • The Life of the Common Era church 
      • to Scripture

    God-willing, we will continue our focus on preaching in 2025 C.E. by defining, applying and comparing the TEACHING of the church with the Word of the BIBLE.


    Find the Way, the Truth and the Life in our Everlasting Savior the Lord Jesus Christ.


    For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food. –

     Hebrews 5:12

    2025 CE Doctrine

    SATURDAY POST SERIES – Biblical Jargon

    January & February

    CategoryDoctrines CE

    Comment on Scripture (you who believe).

    MORE looks back at DOCTRINE

    Although we began this category in 2023 C.E. as an updated look at DOCTRINE, in our travels with the Apostle Paul in ACTS and re-reading some of his LETTERS to the churches I have once again begun ASKING US the QUESTIONS of our Biblical Christian Doctrine and hope to hear your answers about these foundational beliefs. - RH

    Proclaim the scriptural doctrines of the Gospel.

    Followers of Christ must always expect an attack against Scripture. Church doctrine is a line in the sand. - How will a leader or council of leaders choose what the Church will teach?
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    Do you REALLY believe? Is DOCTRINE of the Bible a line in the sand for you? OR has DOCTRINE of the COMMON ERA become a blurred line in the sand of 21st century CE?
    2024 of the COMMON ERA DOCTRINE

    Please comment on any DOCTRINES C.E. post listed chronologically below:

    (Perhaps the most controversial of all BIBLICAL revelation of GOD.)

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