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Church doctrine a line in the sand. - How will a leader or council of leaders choose what the Church will teach?
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What do Christians believe?

Doctrine = Teaching

What do you know about Biblical teaching and preaching?

WHAT DOCTRINES DO YOU BELIVE?

WHAT DOCTRINES DOES YOUR PASTOR PREACH (or avoid)?

  • christianity-lite Doctrines of the Christ-less Era

    christianity-lite Doctrines of the Christ-less Era

    Followers of Christ must always expect an attack against Scripture. Church doctrine is a line in the sand. - How will a leader or council of leaders choose what the Church will teach?
    Are christian pulpits erasing Christ’s Biblical line of DOCTRINE?

    a Christ-less Church of the Common Era

    JESUS Christ was the SON worthy of Christians who once worshiped like this:

    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to obtain an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and unfading, having been kept in heaven for you, who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

    First Letter of the Apostle Peter 1:3-5 Legacy Standard Bible
    • HOW OFTEN DO YOU HEAR ‘our Lord Jesus Christ’ preached from the pulpit of your Common Era church?
    • IS SCRIPTURE INSCRIBED on the doorposts and gates of YOUR COMMON ERA CHURCH?

    שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד׃ דְּבָרִים

    (Deuteronomy) 6 :4

    “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart..

    Deuteronomy 6:5-6 ESV
    The Holy Bible - 1611 King James Version cover

    And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.

    From the LAW of Moses – Deuteronomy 6:9 King James Version

    a HOLY Gospel or a Common Era Jesus?

    SOMETHING CHANGED, but I’m not certain when.

    In the year of our Lord 1959, I joined our local Christian church and the Pastor presented me with a Revised Standard Version of the HOLY BIBLE, which our membership class had studied beginning with the first five books of the Law in addition to discussing key verses from the New Testament.

    So the A.D. 1950's apparently were not yet a time when Christians walked away from God's HOLY BIBLE.

    As children of Christian parents we were expected to become part of our local church and community. Some did so begrudgingly and others of us out of duty to family. What else could we do? And everyone I knew seemed to ‘go to church’ one place or another.

    We referred to God and Jesus as ‘Lord,’ addressed adults as ‘Mister‘ or ‘Missus [so and so] or if we didn’t know them sir or ma’am.

    Our pastor and preacher was to be addressed as, Reverend, just like most of our parents addressed him. (Even children understood what reverend meant as to respect due to this man and his piety associated with God’s leadership of our church.)


    Before the Common Era

    SOMETHING CHANGED during the 1960’s, continued to change into the 70’s and yet more beyond the close of the 20th century.

    Many churches still EXPECTED Christians to stand in acknowledgment of GOD’s HOLY Word as WE bowed in silence to hear proclaimed:

    “THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST ACCORDING TO .. [Matthew, Mark, Luke or John],”

    and then the Holy Scripture was read.

    christianity-lite churches of 2023 of the Common Era can hardly imagine it!
    
    Some imagined it to have been liturgical routine rather than intended due reverence for the HOLINESS of God's Very Word.

    The dichotomy of holiness as separation of GOD ABOVE ALL and JESUS CHRIST as LORD of ALL seemed to blur into a common division from contemporary culture.

    Christians loved their Christ of Christmas and Easter, while ALL the world (mostly US) awaited a dismissal of JESUS as just another sweet lord of some days of a future passed.


    A.D. 1960 – Do you remember when?

    Source for most: Year 1960 Fun Facts, Trivia, and History
    • JFK was elected the first Roman Catholic President of the U.S.
    • The average family income was $5,600
    • and a new house cost $16,500.
    • The starting salary for a teacher was $5,135. It was $4,400 for a police officer and $9,400 for an engineer.
    • A slice of pizza cost 15 cents, a McDonald’s hamburger was also 15 cents, and candy bars were five cents apiece.
    • The minimum wage was $1.00, (family members no min. I made .50/hr. in the 60’s)
    • Farmers made up 8.3% of the U.S. labor force.. about 3,711,000 American farms.. about 303 acres apiece.
    • Over 90% of American households had at least one TV,
      • and about 65% of Americans were churchgoers.
    • The FDA approved the world’s first commercially produced birth control pill.
      • The Roman Catholic Church opposed its use (even by married couples)
      • Protestant churches and other religions still expected NO SEX before marriage and discouraged any divorce.

    Why did christians erase the LINES of Scripture?

    Doctrine - a line in the sand Creeds, Catechisms, Confessions & Christ – What do you believe?

    Churches had to re-imagine JESUS for a post-Christian world of members who no longer wanted to GO TO CHURCH.

    Christians of OUR future world will embrace a Jesus Christ SUPERSTAR along side our flawed antagonist apostle Judas who seemed to be just as I am. WE are the world, too.

    Among our [*] secular friends WE continued to claim that WE are ‘believers,’ BUT we no longer liked to be identified as MEMBERS of the [*] BODY of CHRIST.

    a few definitions erased and eroded

    *SACRED [now archaic in the Common Era] once meant separated from the common sin and evil of the world in order to remain HOLY [on GOD's side of good and evil] and used in 700+ verses in the HOLY BIBLE.
    
    *SECULAR [also archaic to Common Era culturaly inclusive speech] pointed outward to a world separated from the SACRED by clear BIBLICAL LINES of DOCTRINE. 
    
    The Body of Christ and the Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ point to HOLINESS only attainable through Christ as symbolized in HOLY COMMUNION.

    So clearly defined Biblical church lines of religion blurred

    AND antiquated doctrine retired and relegated into the annals of church history.


    The Church of our Lord OR christians of the Common Era?

    • HOW OFTEN DO YOU HEAR ‘our Lord Jesus Christ’ preached from the pulpit of your Common Era church?
      • Rarely, since in a post-Christian world HE is now a familiar pronoun for a more familiar jesus who embraces believers of every culture into gatherings for the anonomous ME.
    • IS SCRIPTURE INSCRIBED on the doorposts and gates of YOUR COMMON ERA CHURCH?
      • god forbid! For holy means separated and WE are together.
      • Therefore the BIBLE bows down to OUR corporate vision to which WE must preach to include ALL the world for the love of our culturally correct Jesus.
        1. Just call Him KING; NEVER Prophet or Priest, which would separate HIM from the multitudes of the world WE seek to gather. AND remember,
        2. MOST books of the BIBLE are OFFENSIVE to seekers of other beliefs; consequently NO Scripture on the walls (or church building or worship screen up front).
        3. THE BIBLE HOLY? – Prophets, Priests and gods forbid!

    christianity-lite

    a graceful LIFE

    RE-imagining jesus

    for a culturally-correct

    church of the Common Era

    christianity lite - the marketing of jesus by the church in the Common Era

    christianity-lite is weightless witness of Christ-less preaching to the Scripture-starved chaff of Common Era culture

    Roger@TalkofJesus.com

    In the context of Western culture and because of growing biblical illiteracy in our churches, the content has often been highly eroded. It has been made light and insubstantial, replaced by a set of self-focused interests.

    David F Wells – GOD IN THE WHIRLWIND, p.188

    The challenge of Teaching GOD’s Truth

    SOMETHING CHANGED between the years of our Lord in centuries past and these last days of the Common Era.

    God is not man, that he should lie,
    or a son of man, that he should change his mind.
    Has he said, and will he not do it?
    Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

    Numbers 23:19 ESV

    It wasn’t God.


    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

    Hebrews 13:8 ESV

    And it was not Jesus Christ (re-branding HimSELF for a Common Era church).

    “Do not be led away by diverse and strange teachings..” the letter to the Hebrews continues in 13:9a.


    All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be equipped, having been thoroughly equipped for every good work.

    Second Letter of the Apostle Paul to the pastor Timothy 3:16-17 LSB

    It wasn’t God’s HOLY BIBLE that changed..

    (although some have intentionally smudged scripture by their own rewording).

    COULD IT BE THE COMMON ERA CHURCH (members, not the building so much) THAT HAS CHANGED?

    ..it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.

    For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food.

    Bible and milk? for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. Hebrews 5:13

    Lord OR just another king of culture?

    Let the church of these last days of a Common Era hear the prophesy of John the Baptist:

    “And the axe is already laid at the root of the trees; therefore every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals;

    Gospel of Matthew 3:10-11b LSB
    • DO YOU WORSHIP JESUS IN TRUTH AND WITH THE HUMILITY OF JOHN?

    “He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

    “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, in Your name did we not prophesy, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many miracles?’

    “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

    The GOSPEL of Matthew 7:21-23 Legacy Standard Bible

    DOCTRINES of the COMMON ERA CHURCH – To Be Continued… God-willing

    Do you really believe christianity-lite? Doctrine for a christ-less Common Era christianity-lite typically erases the lines where Scripture and doctrine holding to what is written.
  • So help US god – intro to christianity lite

    So help US god – intro to christianity lite

    In God WE trust?

    Perhaps it strikes you as strange that I introduce a treatise on Christianity, God and doctrine with an illustration from the coinage of a 20th century A.D. world power like US, The United States of America.

    Yet in this not-so-brave new world of the 21st century Common Era WE spend countless lite-weight pennies. And more inflated American dollars than WE save say, “IN GOD WE TRUST.” All the while WE recklessly espouse political ideologies FOR or AGAINST GOD (blessing America).


    One Nation, Under God

    October, A.D. 2013 conclusion of 5-part TalkofJESUS.com post series from the Prophets
    Election year rhetoric -- nothing new. (See post from 10 years ago above.)
    WE didn't trust in God then and certainly WE as a Nation do NOT trust in God now, ten years later in this Common Era of an upcoming 2024 election.

    The phrase had been placed on U.S. coins since the Civil War when, according to the historical association of the United States Treasury, religious sentiment reached a peak. Eisenhower’s treasury secretary, George Humphrey, had suggested adding the phrase to paper currency as well.

    July 30, A.D. 1956 – President Dwight D. Eisenhower signs a law officially declaring “In God We Trust” to be the nation’s official motto. Public LAW passed by the 84th Congress of the United States of America also ‘mandated that the phrase be printed on all American paper currency.’ – source: History.com

    “In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America’s heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country’s most powerful resource in peace and war.”

    Dwight David Eisenhower – June 14, A.D. 1954 – Flag Day in the U.S.

    christianity lite – church & STATE – god help US

    Time will not allow me to get to the christian church of the Common Era today; so you'll have to wait for my NEXT post where, God-willing, I will move on from doctrines of GOD to teaching JESUS CHRIST. - RH)
    Do you REALLY believe? Is DOCTRINE of the Bible a line in the sand for you? OR has DOCTRINE of the COMMON ERA become a blurred line in the sand of 21st century CE?

    NO Doctrine of the COMMON ERA or any other millennia will stand the test of time without defining GOD truthfully.

    GOD IS and God reveals Himself through His creation, Scriptures and IN THE PERSON of JESUS CHRIST.

    Deuteronomy 4-5 — the line of the LAW and the GOD we crossed

    4:6  וּשְׁמַרְתֶּם וַעֲשִׂיתֶם כִּי הִוא חָכְמַתְכֶם וּבִינַתְכֶם לְעֵינֵי הָעַמִּים אֲשֶׁר יִשְׁמְעוּן אֵת כָּל־הַחֻקִּים הָאֵלֶּה וְאָמְרוּ רַק עַם־חָכָם וְנָבוֹן הַגּוֹי הַגָּדוֹל הַזֶּֽה׃

    “For what great nation is there that has a god so near to it as is Yahweh our God whenever we call on Him? Or what great nation is there that has statutes and judgments as righteous as this whole law which I am setting before you today?

    “Only keep yourself and keep your soul very carefully, lest you forget the things which your eyes have seen and lest they depart from your heart all the days of your life. But make them known to your sons and to your grandsons.

    Deuteronomy 4:7-9 Legacy Standard Bible

    WE must not limit God exclusively to Israel, America or any nation, but worship the only Creator of ALL things, breathing life into human flesh and blood, choosing some as saved souls for His glory of eternal life.

    Roger@TalkofJesus.com
    Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, both His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made.. Psalm 19:1 The heavens are telling of the glory of God;And the expanse is declaring the work of His hands. Talk of JESUS .com

    The Gospel of God from Paul’s letter to the Romans

    I CHALLENGE ANY PASTOR who claims to be NOT GUILTY of preaching "christianity lite" to OPEN A SERMON as Paul does his letter to the Church in Rome: 

    Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus

    Pastor, are you shepherding YOUR church proclaiming yourself "A SLAVE" of the risen Christ JESUS and PROCLAIMING THE GOSPEL of SCRIPTURE as God has written it?
    
    Paul does.

    .. 3 concerning His Son, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh,

    4 who was designated as the Son of God in power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord, ..

    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

    17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “But the righteous will live by faith.”

    christianity lite neglects GOD’s Righteous Wrath

    Your 'christianity lite' 'pastor' will not confess this positive place of appropriate SLAVERY.
    And a Common Era shepherd wearing the casual robes of cultural correctness 
    DARE NOT draw a distinct line written IN GOD'S WORD of Scripture. 
    
    Paul does.

    For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men [and women anthrōpos] who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.

    Paul’s Epistle to the 1st c. A.D. church in Rome 1:18-19 Legacy Standard Bible

    NEXT: christianity lite – in a post-Christian Common Error World

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    Comment on Scripture – Share the Gospel


  • The Demagogues of Democracy in an Idol-led Empire

    The Demagogues of Democracy in an Idol-led Empire

    Labor Day in 2023 of the Common Era

    What is more common in this Common Era of a 2024 Presidential election than demagogues landing like locusts on our popular propaganda screens like ants at a Labor Day picnic?

    Demagogue: a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power

    Trump is just one of many demagogues of democracy tooting his political horn on TikTok Twitter and other social media

    Of course, ‘the medium spin of the message is better than two candidates in the district.’

    US political HEADLINES IN THE HAND spun by paid pundits of unaccountable billionaires hiding behind action committees buying each vote AGAINST fellow demagogues of their political opposite extreme.

    What better day than Labor Day in the Common Era for commonly corrupt men of money to launch another campaign tirade of fear-mongering urging working stiffs on a rare day off to VOTE AGAINST whatever they should ideologically HATE?

    collage of worldly leaders - ACTS 2:40 "Be saved from this perverse generation.

    Party Platforms of an idolized past

    Or should I say: Political Party Platforms from an idealized ancient past?

    I’m not referring to historical parties from an idolized American past: Federalists, Whigs, Democrat-Republicans, Bull Moose or other independents. The ideals of foundational platforms of every party have always been somewhat overstated.

    Political parties once debated a platform of principles upon which their candidates for office could stand.

    Sometime in the 20th c. C.E. foundational Democratic and Republican party platforms and principles collapsed under the weight of PAC’s with polls of single issue influence destined to divide any great empire into the decay of its extreme excesses.

    A Common Era conclusion

    • WE THE PEOPLE of these UNITED STATES of AMERICA are no longer UNITED in the Common Era of our failed principles.
    • Nor are WE governed by a majority as one might imagine.

    Rather citizens of our once united states have been divided as spoil of partisan political victories as unwilling subjects of political kings appealing to the extremes of our discontent.

    Go ahead and do the math: 
    TOTAL number of citizens 18 or older [think 2020 US Census], 
    convert the % of 'registered' votes of the 'winner' into the actual total # of votes,
    USE the WINNING NUMBER of VOTES and DIVIDE any CANDIDATE TOTAL by the NUMBER of CITIZENS! (Registered, including NO SHOWS & ABSTENTIONS in addition to a LARGE # of US citizens who DO NOT EVEN REGISTER TO VOTE.)
    • A TRUE WINNER of a MAJORITY could claim a NUMBER = to HALF the census 18+ population, plus 1.
    • Does ANY national candidate for political office have such a majority mandate of US citizens? (Go ahead and name one!)
    • Our VOTE is bought and paid for by the politically powerful minority WE THE PEOPLE rarely see lining the pockets of our Representatives, Senators and Presidents.

    WE consequently conclude that NO principles of party will govern any newspeak fed to THE PEOPLE of our divided nation.

    Certainly not on such common occasions as Labor Day 2023 of the Common Era with so many candidates full of HEADLINE DEMAGOGUERY leading up to divisive 2024 elections.


    Historical Reminders

    • DEMOCRACY
      • from ancient Greece

    Alexander was considered ‘the Great’ after crushing democracy as the philosophers debated and ruled much of the world until his death just centuries Before Christ (BCE to you ‘Commoners).

    • REPUBLIC
      • from the Rome Before Christ (or B.C.E. for you evolved pagans)

    JULIUS CAESAR was an elected official of Rome’s idealistic Republic AND a general leading loyal Romans back from victory to claim Rome as its Caesar. (Most know of his demise on the Ides of March in 44 B.C.

    ROME ruled the world through its Caesars worshiped as gods among the gods. The ruthlessness of Rome’s Legions prevailed over the ideals of its Republic.

    7th century B.C.

    From Isaiah, a true Prophet of God after the fall of David & Solomon's Empire
    59:4 No one calls in righteousness, and no one seeks justice in truth.
    
    They trust in confusion and speak worthlessness;
    
    They conceive trouble and give birth to wickedness.
    
    7 Their feet run to evil,
    
    And they are quick to shed innocent blood;
    
    Their thoughts are thoughts of wickedness;
    
    Devastation and destruction are in their highways.
    

    Justice is turned back,

    And righteousness stands far away;

    For truth has stumbled in the street,

    And rightness cannot enter.

    So it is that truth is missing;

    And he who turns aside from evil makes himself plunder.

    Then Yahweh saw,

    And it was evil in His eyes that there was no justice.

    “A Redeemer will come to Zion,

    And to those who turn from transgression in Jacob,” declares Yahweh.

    Isaiah 59:14-15,20 LSB

    The Redeemer of Zion of those any who turn from sin — Before Christ and in these last days of our Lord dismissed as the Common Era — is JESUS a prophet, priest and king forever.

    The Ideological Enemy among US

    • COMMUNIST and
    • SOCIALIST

    USSR abbreviation for the UNION of SOCIALIST Soviet REPUBLICS.

    Stalin’s Communism will always cleanse the land of protagonist challengers who stand up to their walled-in autocracy.

    Socialism better describes the governmentaiization of money rather than the internment of the communes controlling the lives of its people.

    The cults of communism choose their own Caesars and the Republics of Religion will anoint their own gods.

    Roger@TalkofJESUS.com
    • Islamic Republics and Hindu Democracies fail in principle and in theory even as they proliferate and invade former strongholds of free but tolerant nations.
    • Capitalist Communists will invest in peace as currency of control in wars of attrition undermining the freedoms of competition.
    • The Atheist Tyrant embraces the religions of authoritarian rule.

    Demagogues of Labor Days in the C.E.

    Let US not deceive ourselves, even as Satan convinced man, ‘you will not die.’

    The righteous will live by faith, but which Labor Day speech of the Common Era will not shout out the unrighteous likes of the unrepentant faithless?

    A Proverb for Labor Day

    A worker’s appetite works for him;

    His mouth urges him on.

    A worthless man plots evil,

    and his speech is like a scorching fire.

    Proverbs 16:26 & 27 CSB

    And a closing consideration of Labor Day in the Common Era

    The demagogues of democracy will dictate what all will be required to do
    while the agendas of anarchy proclaim all of their gods.

    Roger@TalkofJESUS.com + Serving no Caesar in place of Christ our resurrected and living Redeemer and King