Tag: philosophy

  • Approaching Athena the ruling goddess of Athens

    Approaching Athena the ruling goddess of Athens

    The Lord’s apostle to the gentiles — Paul, or Saul of Tarsus, a Roman citizen of CILICIA — has hurriedly fled Thessaloniki and Berea MACEDONIA sailing south along the Aegean coast of ACHIA to Athens.

    sailing from Macedonia through the Aegean Sea to Achia, home of ancient Athens and a larger city of Corinth

    Sailing from Macedonia to Athens

    Although fleeing the Jews we must think of Paulos as a ROMAN citizen on some sort of commercial Roman ship traveling from Macedonia to Achia. Yes, the destination of his ticket in Athens – a city of a 300 year old fading glory – but the more important city of Roman Achia is now Corinth.

    What is more important here along Paul’s nearly 300 mile journey here is the context of culture so evident as he sails to Athens and then walks through the entrance of a city steeped in its former Hellenist glory.

    Previously we addressed the ‘Greek‘ influence of Alexander the Great and Macedonian culture.
    Statue of Alexander the Great atop a fountain in Thessaloniki, Greece. In Acts 17 Paul fled from there to Berea on his second missionary journey;

    This modern-day statue of Alexander the Great in Thessaloniki, Greece partially demonstrates this Macedonian’s lasting influence even since his death in 323 B.C.

    Paul would have no sooner left port in Macedonia than all would have viewed the great mountains of Greek mythology on their starboard side.

    Google Earth View of Mount Olympus, Olympus mountains toward Berea
    (We will approach these gods Zeus and others upon arrival in Athens.)
    Mount Olympus, highest peak in Greece
    Mount Olympus – Highest peak in Greece, home of Zeus and the mythology of the Greek gods and goddesses

    As we noted earlier the apostles’ journey along this mountainous coast of about 300 miles takes them from Macedonia (with its Alexandrian history) to Achia, the Roman region of strategic importance which includes Corinth on an inland isthmus and the port of Athens, formerly devastated by war but brought back to prominence by Rome as a ‘free city.’

    Approaching Athens

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    As their commercial Roman sailing ship rounded mountains descending into the Aegean on their approach Athens, Paul would have seen ruins of the destroyed Acropolis appear on the hill to their starboard side prior to their ship docking in port.

    acropolis comes from the Greek words ἄκρον (akron, “highest point, extremity”) and πόλις (polis, “city”). – source – Flickr (same as photo)

    Upon arrival, as we noted last time, Paul sent his Berean brothers back to let the church know that he had arrived safely — again a 300 mile return trip while the Apostle Paul takes in the sights of this ancient ruined Greek city of Hellenist influence and lessor free city of Rome gaining the attention of its Emporer (a Caesar and god of the people).

    Visitors to the Athens of A.D. 50 would have walked along streets lined with monuments and statues as they ascended the hill into the city and its agora (marketplace).


    Unknown gods and goddesses

    Now while Paul was waiting for them at Athens, his spirit was being provoked within him as he was observing the city full of idols.

    Acts of the Apostles 17:16
    Thomas Cahill - SAILIING THE WINE DARK SEA - Why the Greeks Matter

    NOTE: Although I have researched several sources as a background for Paul’s Acts 17 speech in Athens, you will find this one most useful and detailed. – Roger@TalkofJesus.com

    https://thomascahill.com/books


    YOU and I cannot fully understand Paul’s more contemporary knowledge of his first century A.D. context of clashes between Hellenist, Roman and Hebrew cultures; however after a brief overview of the text we will take a glance at Athens through the A.D. 50 eyes of all.


    Acts of the Apostles 17:

    Acropolis -

    17 So he was reasoning in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Gentiles,

    and in the marketplace every day with those who happened to be present.

    18 And also some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers were conversing with him. Some were saying, “What would this idle babbler wish to say?” Others, “He seems to be a proclaimer of strange deities,”—because he was proclaiming the good news of Jesus and the resurrection. 19 And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, “May we know what this new teaching is which you are speaking? 20 “For you are bringing some strange things to our ears. So we want to know what these things mean.”

    Luke now inserts a parenthetical glance at our 1st century A.D. philosophers of Athens.

    21 (Now all the Athenians and the strangers visiting there used to spend their time in nothing other than telling or hearing something newer.)

    Luke's account continues from ACTS 17:22 'So Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus..
    
    We will listen to the apostle to the gentiles addressing the men of Athens next time, but first some CULTURAL CONTEXT.

    The Jews (in the eyes of Athens)

    The acts of Saul of Tarsus persecuted Christians until on a road to Damascus the Lord anoints the Apostle to the gentiles

    Saulos of Tarsus frequented the synagogues of his Hebrew brothers first in many other cities. He is a Pharisee who had believed in the Resurrection even prior to meeting the risen Messiah Jesus (same as Joshua in Hebrew) live and in Person.


    This belief in the resurrection of JESUS, Ἰησοῦς in the common Greek language, yᵊhôšûaʿ or Joshua in Hebrew, held by some Pharisees and some Essenes but not the Jewish sect of the Sadducees attracted Pharisaic Jews and proselytes to Christ’s fulfillment of Hebrew Scripture.

    Jews were merchants who mostly seemed to fit into the Pax Romana like any other religious culture except for one strange belief: Jews only had One God.

    An even more strange belief of some Jews about what happened to the body after death seemed somewhat ghoulish. (Just imagine some neighbor walking around Athens after he died — laughable!) What a strange belief of some of these Jews.

    For the Jews, who had little or no belief in the immortality of the soul, only salvation in one’s body could have any meaning.

    Thomas Cahill, Why the Greeks Matter, p.260

    The ‘peace’ of Rome accomplished in Athens by conquest was tenuous. Athenians and Romans were somewhat suspicious of Jews who the Emperor Claudius had just expelled from Rome.

    Therefore, just as Saul of Tarsus had fled Macedonia secretly and swiftly, Jews in Achia and other cities of the Roman Empire most likely worshiped somewhat ‘under the radar’ in A.D. 50 so as to peaceably blend in with other Greeks.

    As to Jewish cultural traditions of the past, Hellenist and Roman alike would have admired the great Jewish Empire of Solomon which was even more ancient than the centuries-old fallen glory of Alexander of Macedon who also conquered all of the world including the ancient cities of Greece.

    To the Hellenist eyes of Athenian philosophers Jewish wisdom differed from their own ancient Greek wisdom. Paul understood both.

    .. a Hebrew mode of argument .. proceeds by assertion and contrast rather than step-by-step reasoning [of ‘Socratic method’]

    Thomas Cahill, excerpt ibid. p.165

    17 So he was reasoning in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Gentiles


    Dialogue with men in the Agora

    .. and in the marketplace G58 every day with those who happened to be present.

    You might think that based on previous witness in other cities the apostle would have steered clear of the agora where everybody who’s anybody gathers in town.

    But when her masters saw that their hope of profit had left, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace before the authorities, – Acts 16:19 LSB

    Acts of the Apostles Missions trips of Paul, Barnabas, Silas and several others

    Paulos, sent out by Christ to the world of the Greeks, is a Roman citizen with a public duty, a Greek-speaking orator with a heart for the One God revealed in Hebrew Scripture and by the Messiah and the Spirit of the Living God.


    This visitor to Athens brings a unique perspective to Roman authorities and citizens of this free Roman city in addition to an appeal to traditional and classic Greek values represented in-part by their many gods.

    The agora in Athens is crowded with Gentiles EVERY DAY.

    ἀγορά

    1. any assembly, especially of the people
    2. the place of assembly
    3. market place, street

    The Greek or Hellenist or Roman agora is a multi-purpose public place.

    For: public debating, in-person democratic elections, trials, for buying and selling and all kinds of business


    Aristotle & the pantheon of Athenian gods of philosophy

    Classic Greece is long gone. Aristotle died in 322 B.C., his student Plato in 347 B.C. and Socrates had accepted his death sentence of hemlock for disbelief in the gods of Athens way back in 399 B.C.

    ~A.D. 50

    Acts 17:18

    And also some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers were conversing with him.

    Who are these endless debaters of the Agora?

    Some were saying, “What would this idle babbler wish to say?”

    Others, “He seems to be a proclaimer of strange deities,”—because he was proclaiming the good news of Jesus and the resurrection.

    Classic Schools of Philo-sophy [love of wisdom]

    Roman and Hellene aristocratic families would send their young men to Athens. It’s schools included: Cynicism, Stoicism, Skepticism, Epicureanism and others. Among these that Paul would have encountered:

    Stoics taught virtuous detachment from the physical things of the world (a sort of monastic approach). Epicureans taught to love of life and pleasure much to the liking of most powerful Roman and well-healed Greek men celebrating so many festivals of various gods with little thought of wisdom at all.

    In fact, over the centuries since the esteemed Greek philosophers Athens and other Hellenist cities had had so many varied festivals and pantheons of gods that no man could truly remember them all.

    THE LOVERS OF WISDOM continually TALKED about gods and religion as a contest between PHILOSOPHERS seeking advantage over their opponent without seeking the TRUTH of the LOGOS which the Apostle Paul was about to present.

    And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus

    Acts of the Apostle Paul in ATHENS — To be continued…

  • Church: Religion? Philosophic Discourse? or Cultural Calling?

    Church: Religion? Philosophic Discourse? or Cultural Calling?

    The instant you say, ‘church,’ you dip your toe into waters of reactions which you know not how hot or cold, how shallow or deep, how stagnant or storm-tossed the hearer of your faith.

    Do you dare even ask?

    • Are YOU a CHRISTIAN?
    • Where did you worship last Sunday?
    • Do you belong to OUR church?
    • What are you currently studying from the Bible?
    • Would you talk of JESUS with me?
    • May I SHARE the Good News of my Biblical Christian faith?

    Just imagine the wide range of reactions of any other soul to ANY of these questions of the faithful evangelical Christian daring to share the Gospel of their Biblical Christian church.

    An even more troubling question:

    Does a Christian dare engage OTHER ‘christians‘ in a conversation about Christ (the Namesake of our Christian faith) addressing ALL of these questions and more about our Biblical Christian faith?

    Have YOU, in fact, tested these troublesome waters?

    IF SO, perhaps you too have received a baptism of hot opposition or a cold withdrawal of the flesh from the waters of faith.

    That would be evangelism = a RED FLAG of RELIGION to which a world (inclusively with some calling themselves a ‘church,’) will often react with ears that do not hear, as well as the rhetoric of rebellion against the Lord God and anarchy against salvation of the sinful soul.


    • Perhaps evangelism nets too few caught in the rising waters of a cultural flood of this world reacting to the ‘church,’ by denying Christ Jesus.
    • Maybe a pure Biblical Christian faith offends some tiptoeing into the mire of murky waters of philosophic denial.

    The [*] wicked fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”

    They act corruptly, they commit abominable deeds;

    There is no one who does good.

    Psalm 14 :: Legacy Standard Bible (LSB) * wicked – one who rejects wisdom in rebellion against God
    (Although some these wicked fools have crept into pulpits of places which call themselves, 'church.')

    ANY constant questioning of authoritative adherence to the Word of God, the Holy Bible of our Christian faith, should sound an alarm to the faithful:

    Beware of the tempter in sheep’s clothing.

    Who else would deconstruct the Biblical Christian foundation of the Church, only to reconstruct our faith by compromises of the only Truth, replacing authoritative Scripture with several shifting pebbles of heretical half-truths ‘reasoned’ by the wicked at war with Christ?

    So I ask you .. I ask us:

    Who are these 21st century Christians?

    What are YOUR answers to my earlier questions I dare to ask my fellow evangelical Christian believers and worshipers of Jesus Christ? (ADD your Comment on Scripture to this Saturday Post of TalkofJESUS.com) 
    Our church in Christ Jesus has no place for the unrepentant wicked fool; for our Gospel is for those who believe.
    

    I began this Saturday Post series as a deeper discussion of DOCTRINE (or teaching) of the Church. The alarm of the watchman on the wall rang in my ears while hearing about a subtle teaching, an undercurrent of doctrine seeping into the evangelical christian church.

    Evangelical RECONSTRUCTION was something I naively had never heard of; YET now I will raise the trumpet of warning to sound the alarm:

    Medieval church bell tower during sundown in valley

    Something’s wrong with our church!

    (Who wouldn't agree?)
     YES it is.

    So why not RECALL it?

    (Send it ‘back to the manufacturer? Can’t do that. So how can WE evolve the church into a 21st c. style faith?)

    Tear it down to the ground demolishing doctrine by doctrine.

    Then WE can RECONSTRUCT that which WE have deconstructed to fix the church how WE want.

    But WE had better do it subtly (so as not to offend anybody) and stealthily (without account of a foundational Biblical Christian teaching).

    A 21st c. RECALL of the CHURCH is just what WE need for OUR Evangelical Reconstruction of the Church into a socially acceptable gathering which will attract any follower from religions of every culture of our world.

    NOT!

    To borrow from the Apostle Paul refuting premises of clear untruths:

    By no means!

    Perfect Teaching (for God’s imperfect ‘church’)

    https://talkofjesus.com/talk-jesus-com/what-is-doctrine/
    διδασκαλία – didaskalia – doctrine (19x), teaching (1x), learning (1x). – source: BlueLetterBible.org

    Doctrine, whether by preaching or teaching or proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ, is foundational to faith and therefore never to be torn down by any mortal sinner. Scripture affirms God’s truth and the trustworthy teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ for those who believe.

    .. so that we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming, ..

    Letter of the Apostle Paul to the Church in Ephesus 4:14 Legacy Standard Bible

    This same Apostle (to the Gentiles) confesses in his first letter to the pastor, Timothy 1:15

    .. that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    And the Apostle Peter fell down at Jesus’ knees, saying,

    “Go away from me Lord, for I am a sinful man!”

    the Good News of Luke 5:8 Legacy Standard Bible

    Some call Peter and Paul, Saints (and they are); yet all of God’s faithful are saints to the Lord.

    Psalm 34:9 (WLC 34:10) יְראוּ אֶת־יְהוָה קְדֹשָׁיו כִּי־ אֵין מַחְסוֹר לִירֵאָֽיו׃

    Yodh
    Oh, fear Yahweh, you His saints;
    For there is no want to those who fear Him.
    Do YOU FEAR THE LORD GOD, oh you sinner?
    
    The MARQEE denominational name of your 'church' matters NOT, my fellow sinner. 
    Seek the salvation of the Lord, my dear fellow saint, His redemption of your soul to eternal life witnessed in the Gospel of the Christ JESUS.

    Perfect Preaching (Teaching)

    Is based on & does not manipulate Scripture.

    THE LORD GOD IS! (God IS God and mankind is not.)

    God spoke to and through men whom the Lord God chose and commanded to write HIS words.

    “God is not a man, that He should lie,

    Nor a son of man, that He should repent;

    Has He said, and will He not do it?

    Or has He spoken, and will He not establish it?

    Numbers 23:19 LSB
    Do you really believe that? Can you affirm that ONLY Scripture Sola Scriptura is the inspired word of the Lord God?
    ONLY Scripture – Sola Scriptura

    All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness,

    2 Timothy 3:16 LSB

    NOT ‘some,’ NOT ‘select scripture’ ..

    AND separate from the truth that some church pastors will never reprove or correct those wayward weak sheep of their own flock,

    ALL of the WRITTEN WORD OF SCRIPTURE IS GOD INSPIRED!

    Mortal SINNERS DO NOT get to reconstruct what GOD has said.

    (But false teachers of every era subtly seek to lead Christ’s lost sheep into the abyss of disbelief.)

    Inerrant TRUTH: Our reasoned Biblical Faith

    Pilate said to Him, “What is truth?”

    The Apostle John’s Good News for you is:

    .. that he is telling the truth, so that you also may believe.

    Evangelical RE-construction of the Church

    Source material for the following is transcribed (written as accurately as possible) from the A.D. 2022 podcast 'Just Thinking,' previously recommended and linked on TalkofJESUS.com and used with permission of its author. - RH

    In deconstruction everything is a SOCIAL construction, including the church.

    Darrell Harrison
    By the way, this Saturday Post series, Church – Who are these 21st c. Christians? - is directed toward faithful evangelical Christians who fear God and believe Scripture as a warning and caution for infidelity to Christ we increasingly hear from the pulpits of our RE-engineered 21st c. 'churches.' - RH
    
    I will add brief comment to Harrison's outline below for your consideration and intentional thinking about the teaching of your church. Why not add your own thoughts in the Comments at the bottom of this post. 
    
    God-willing, we will continue the course of identifying the faithful of our 21st century 'Church' next Saturday.
    
    © Darrell B. Harrison and Just Thinking Ministries

    Evangelical Deconstructionism

    Most of the points quoted may be found in the Just Thinking Podcast near 1:32.

    FIVE-POINT PROGRESSION of Evangelical Deconstructionism

    1. EMBRACE and posit [plant or assume] the idea [philosophy] that the CHURCH is a SOCIALLY constructed system, NOT a divinely ordained idea [institution] that originated in the mind of God.
    2. ASSUME that this socially constructed system is designed to be exclusive of certain intersectional identities, traditions and behaviors.
    3. IDENTIFY subjective [reasoned in the mind] points or cracks in that socially constructed system that have failed [as reasoned by the philosopher] AND need to be fixed [or reconstructed].
    4. APPLY a hermeneutic [interpretive explanation] of SUSPICION to that SOCIALIALLY-CONSTRUCTED system so that ANYONE [who even remotely] connected to that system is deemed UNTRUSTWORTHY.. deemed an enemy.
    5. RECONSTRUCT this SOCIAL SYSTEM [church, etc.] into the IMAGE and likeness of the CULTURE with socially acceptable.. [everythingology].

    Have you heard the alarm?

    “Therefore watch out, so that the thing spoken of in the Prophets may not come upon you:

    Acts of the Apostles 13:40 LSB [in context 13:23-41]

    Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

    Gospel of Matthew 7:15 LSB – a warning of Jesus

    “Now why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

    Gospel of Luke 6:46 LSB – CHALLANGE of the Lord Jesus Christ to followers


    What must we do?

    Does YOUR local church have a new cultural calling to evangelism?

    Please comment below on what you observe of Evangelical Deconstructionism?

    Comment on Scripture + Share the Gospel

  • Inerrant TRUTH: Our reasoned Biblical Faith

    Inerrant TRUTH: Our reasoned Biblical Faith

    WHY would you study the HOLY BIBLE?

    For inerrant truth!

    Do we believe by faith? YES, but not a fantastical faith or unrealistic religious calling to that which cannot be known.

    In most circumstances and communications, truth matters to me and also to you. Certainly God speaks only truth and the Bible is where ‘it is written’ by God, through men and confirmed by the Holy Spirit of God.

    Truth matters to God as it ought to mankind of His creation.

    A Perfect Lord God does not make mistakes, nor does He lie to a man (as men frequently deceive one another).

    In review:

    We have just studied several of His doctrines as students seeking knowlege and truth.

    [Oops! I frequently make an error in knowledge. Did YOU catch it?]

    Do we also make errors in TRUTH?

    ONLY SCRIPTURE speaks to man with the Highest Authority of TRUTH.

    THE HOLY BIBLE SPEAKS

    Why would you study the BIBLE?

    open Bible and hands with pen
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    GOD speaks to man through the HOLY Spirit in what is written in Holy Scripture. Since man now seeks knowledge of good and evil, our first question of reasoned faith becomes where to look. Our logical pursuit of good also leads man to weigh God-given and God-evident truth.

    Besides our own observations of evidence and fact, where will one learn truth without error?

    Where do we find this unshakable faith in what GOD has said?

    In the Holy Bible, which contains Inerrant truth of what God has said.

    Sanctify them through thy truththy word is truth.

    John 17:17 KJVprayer of Christ Jesus

    The Highest Authority of the Lord God will confirm unequivocal inerrant truth ONLY in the HOLY BIBLE, if we will READ and Study the very Word of God.

    KNOWING GOD

    In his book, ‘Knowing God,’ J.I. Packer, after beginning, “..the Bible is his word,” in five theological points writes”

    Godliness means responding to God’s revelation in trust and obedience, faith and worship, prayer and praise, submission and service. Life must be seen and lived in the light of God’s word. This, and nothing else, is true religion.

    Knowing God p.20 – five basic truths #5

    What is truth?

    Most Christians will recognize the question of Pontius Pilate to Christ Jesus to which the Prefect of Judea from Rome expected no answer.

    Like Pilate, we sometimes ask about truth rhetorically, expecting no answer or having no measure of relative truth.

    Where can we find reliable Truth (with a capital ‘T’)?

    The BIBLE is your source.

    And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    Gospel of John 1:14 NASB20 – Do you seek the Truth in the flesh?

    Objective, Subjective & relative truth

    Packer makes the important point that God’s truth does not change. [p.78]

    Again, quoting Packer in KNOWING GOD:

    Truth in the Bible is a quality of persons primarily, of propositions only secondarily. It means stability, reliability, firmness, trustworthiness, the quality of a person who is entirely self-consistent, sincere, realistic, undeceived.

    KNOWING GOD, p.113

    I like this definition of Truth. Don’t you?

    Look back that this list of qualities of such a person. Then note what Packer says next:

    God is such a person: truth, in this sense, is his nature, and he has not got it in him to be anything else.

    J. I. Packer

    To fully understand objective Truth (with a capital ‘T’) you must meet the Person of a personal God.


    When God tells Moses to tell the people his Name, “I AM that I AM,” the LORD states objective truth.

    Subjective truth on the other hand depends on the separate minds of mankind.

    Therefore philosophers (theists and atheists alike) refer to subjective truth as the nature of a thing, essential attributes that which makes it what it is, or its inherent essential qualities.

    All that to say, I think, therefore I am this or I am that. And that makes me what I am.

    Perhaps God is required (the conclusion of theists) or perhaps not (even definitely not, say the atheists who deny the evidence, lack faith and cannot prove either theory).

    In any case, the case of philosophers is subjective truth, conjecture, as it were.

    Theories of Relativity

    But it gets worse. From the varying opinions of men and acceptance of all possibilities (whether possible or not, whether true or not), we get:

    Relative truth (Capital ‘R’ + very small ‘t’).

    a parable of the madman who is searching for God

    Of course you think ‘God is dead,’ because you buried your BIBLE.

    • The theory.. truth.. morality, have no universal validitysource
    • philosophical doctrine (teaching) of the relativity of knowledge
    • theory, especially in ethics.. conceptions of truth and moral values are not absolute..

    That is to say, the theory of relativism, by accepting ALL truths (small ‘t’), teaches a philosophy of tolerance, void of moral values and insistent that only their truth is absolute.

    All gods and all religions are valid except any which proclaim absolute Truth {capital ‘T’) and One God with true authority of man. Relativists, as universalists, do NOT believe in the One True God of the Bible. In practice, though some may claim ‘god,’ their worship (if any) is idolatry. These false philosophers and teachers are, in fact, atheists.

    God is NOT dead; only Truth, murdered by atheists.

    psalm 14:1 fool says there is no god

    Truth (capital ‘T’) may not exist

    (they claim).

    • Refuting the absolute Truth of God denies facts in evidence.
    • Truth (capital ‘T’ absolute truth) is unprovable in the separate and sinfully separated minds of mankind.
      • (although relativists deny sin, morality & truth
        • {see their denial by definition above})

    What do you believe about Biblical Truth?

    God has looked down from heaven upon the sons of mankind

    To see if there is anyone who understands,

    Who seeks after God.

    Psalm 53:2 [Foolishness and Wickedness of People.
    (also Psalm 14:1–7 )] {v.1 is about the fool}

    A man (or woman) can understand truth.

    And we can understand [שָׂכַל] [to be prudent, be circumspect or wisely understand, prosper] in truth by seeking the Lord God by faith in Holy Scripture.

    Once again, Packer, in KNOWING GOD, states:

    True Christians are those who acknowledge and live under the word of God.

    J.I. Packer in Knowing God, p116

    Quoting Daniel, Packer adds: They submit without reserve to the word of God written in “the Book of Truth”..

    “However, I will tell you what is recorded in the writing of truth.

    Daniel 10:21a NASB20 [additional translations]

    IF you seek truth in the Bible, you would do well to seek after God in the Scriptures included in this verse.

    But IF you do NOT seek Biblical Truth or the TRUTH written by God in Scripture, you will need to note the enemy of Truth mentioned in the second part of Daniel’s writing in 10:21b (also linked above).

    Christians do believe proven facts; however science frequently claims THEORY as FACT.

    Science is NOT the highest authority of Truth. God IS.

    Roger@talkofJESUS.com

    Therefore we do NOT believe certain THEORIES of scientists and philosophers which claim TRUTH, but are NOT FACT. These include:

    First – false ‘facts’ we do NOT believe
    • Evolution is theory built on the premise and philosophy that the created is god.
      • The Bible refers to such beliefs as idolatry, of which the most prevalent in man is idolatry of self.
    • Naturalism is theory, not scientific fact.
      • Carbon dating conjectures calendars with complex limited variables, but beta testing of the late 20th century and calibration curves for calendar examples fail to prove origin of most things (let alone the world).
    • Environmentalism is a movement and ideology..
    • Physical cosmology, by definition is dependent on ‘the scientific theory
      • (without reference to what happened BEFORE the big bang!
      • or reasoning: Who (or what) caused it?)
    • This list of FALSE so called ‘facts’ is NOT exhaustive.

    Truth is illusive in the unproven theories of science which man mirrors as “fact.”

    Roger@talkofJESUS.com
    chalkboard - written Sola Scriptura! Only Scripture

    “Woe to him who strives with his Maker! .. Shall the clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’

    Isaiah 45:9a,c NKJV

    Seek TRUTH in Scripture

    • Start with Scripture studied and taught with precision and clarity
    • AND grow in your faith by its inerrant TRUTH.

    “If you continue in My word, then you are truly My disciples; and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

    Gospel of John 8:31b-32 NASB20 – The words of Jesus to those Jews [who knew scripture well &] who had believed Him

    If you continue..

    I have shared opposing views of inherent truth today. In fact, IF I have not provoked some reasoned thought about the Truth of the Bible I have missed the mark.

    • Do YOU really believe THAT about the Bible?
    • Does Scripture convey inerrant truth?

    Please COMMENT & SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.

    NEXT: We will ask you some pointed doctrinal questions about the inerrancy of Scripture from a panel of distinguished theologians of the late 20th century. Until then, may the Lord bring the clarity of reasoned faith to your heart as you respond to this Saturday Doctrinal Post on talkofJESUS.COM

    To be continued...