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  • Resurrection? +  Questions about DEATH and Life

    Resurrection? + Questions about DEATH and Life

    DEATH! Everyone must have had questions about the DEATH and life of Jesus now. Resurrection, though they had talked about it — even witnessed the dead coming to life like Lazarus and others — resurrection remained far from their minds.

    Lazarus come forth - photo of sunrise and Bible
    John 11:43

    The Messiah of Israel, authoritative rabbi, proven prophet, beloved shepherd, gentle lamb of God — Jesus, even the Son of God crucified on a shameful Roman cross, buried in a grave like any other man — Jesus, the Christ — dead. How could G-d allow it? For if any man or woman deserved DEATH, even shameful crucifixion hanging on a Cross, it was not this Son of Man, Jesus (shamefully mocked as King of the JEWS). He was so much more than that, but DEATH?

    What meaning to our life if living like a Perfect Son was not enough to avoid DEATH?

    Of course, Lazarus like everybody else will die again. But what then, without Jesus?

    What does Scripture say about DEATH?

    DEATH looms so LARGE in each of our lives…

    A beloved wife or husband dies or even a child before their time.

    My younger brother died before me; my mother’s older brother had died as a child — and for most mortals my age, one or both parents have already suffered DEATH by various causes.

    Is life so meaningless that DEATH must conquer each mortal soul?

    What does the Bible say about death?

    And more to our hope from the ‘Easter story,’

    What does Scripture say about life AFTER DEATH, that is: Resurrection?

    DEATH after life

    One of the first mentions of death in Genesis is by the wife of Abraham, Hagar anticipating the death of her son.

    When the water in the skin was used up, she left the boy under one of the bushes. Then she went and sat down opposite him, about a bowshot away, for she said,

    “May I not see the boy die!”

    And she sat opposite him, and raised her voice and wept.

    God heard the boy crying; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter with you, Hagar? Do not fear, for God has heard the voice of the boy where he is.

    Genesis 21:[15-]17 NASB20

    מָוֶתמוּת

    1:12 הֲל֧וֹא אַתָּ֣ה מִקֶּ֗דֶם יְהוָ֧ה אֱלֹהַ֛י קְדֹשִׁ֖י לֹ֣א נָמ֑וּת יְהוָה֙ לְמִשְׁפָּ֣ט שַׂמְתּ֔וֹ וְצ֖וּר לְהוֹכִ֥יחַ יְסַדְתּֽוֹ׃

    Hab 1:12 Masoretic text

    ‘We will not die,’ we hope to God daily.

    • The KJV translates Strong’s H4191 in the following manner: die (424x), dead (130x), slay (100x), death (83x), surely (50x), kill (31x), dead man (3x), dead body (2x), in no wise (2x), miscellaneous (10x).
    • The KJV translates Strong’s H4194 in the following manner: death (128x), die (22x), dead (8x), deadly (1x), slay (1x).

    We see ‘death, dying, Death (personified), realm of the dead; to die, kill, be put to death (even like the Messiah Yeshua) innumerable times in the Bible — hundreds of instances of DEATH — hundreds.

    Yet what then (after death, that is)?

    Moses – מֹשֶׁה 

    Deuteronomy 31:16 The LORD said to Moses,

    “Behold, you are about to lie down with your fathers;

    [KJV – ‘Behold, thou shalt sleep‘ – H7901 – šāḵaḇ – lie (106x), sleep (48x), lie down (43x), rest (3x) (some dual meaning here as well – RH)]

    and this people will arise and play the prostitute with the foreign gods of the land into the midst of which they are going, and they will abandon Me and break My covenant which I have made with them.

    The Crucifixion of Jesus confirmed the breaking of the first Covenant and now by the resurrection the LORD establishes a New Covenant.

    “Take this Book of the Law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, so that it may remain there as a witness against you.

    Deuteronomy 31:26

    34:5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, in accordance with the word of the LORD.

    And He buried him in the valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor; but no one knows his burial place to this day.

    Deuteronomy 34:6 NASB20

    7 Although Moses was 120 years old when he died, his eyesight was not dim, nor had his vigor left him.

    • They BURIED MOSES. (Site unknown.)
    • and later — a resurrection appearance?

    And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him.

    Matthew 17:3 NASB20

    Elijah – אֵלִיָּהוּ 

    We easily get caught up in his great battles against evil yet forget that the great prophet of the LORD raised a boy from the dead, as later the Messiah Jesus did at Nain.

    1 Kings 17:

    “O Lord my God, I pray thee, let this child’s soul come into him again.”

    22 And the Lord heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived…

    more of the story of this resurrection by Elijah above

    DEATH as a young man; and then RESURRECTION by the LORD and the prayer of Elijah.

    Later a second great prophet Elisha witnesses Elijah at his DEATH.

    And as they were walking along and talking, behold, a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and they separated the two of them. Then Elijah went up by a whirlwind to heaven.

    And Elisha was watching it and he was crying out, “My father, my father, the chariot of Israel and its horsemen!” And he did not see [fn]Elijah again. Then he took hold of his own clothes and tore them in two pieces.

    2 Kings 2: [9]-12 NASB20

    Elijah, not like Moses, was taken up; yet still Elisha mourns. Even having witnessed NO death, he mourns the loss of his beloved teacher.

    And Simon Peter, who loved his teacher, the Messiah Jesus also witnessed him (never giving thought to what must happen to the Christ BEFORE HIS RESURRECTION).

    Jesus – Ἰησοῦς – יְהוֹשׁוּעַ

    Matthew 17:
    You may need to click the link above for common English if you have trouble following the
    Orthodox Jewish Bible used by some Messianic Jews.

    And after shisha yamim (six days), Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach took Kefa, Yaakov and Yochanan his brother; he brings them up to a high mountain in yechidus.

    2 And Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach was transfigured before them, and Moshiach’s face shone like the shemesh (sun), and his garments became brilliant like the ohr.

    3 And hinei! There appeared before them Moshe Rabbenu and Eliyahu HaNavi conferring with Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach.

    KJV 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

    5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

    6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.


    Glorious! Not unlike the LORD on Sinai.

    Yet listen to what Jesus tells Peter and John who were present.

    “..Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead… Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wanted. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”

    Matthew 17:9b KJV, 12b NASB

    Of course, even though the Twelve had heard Jesus say plainly and He must suffer and die, them be raised from the dead after three days, now after the Lord’s cruel crucifixion resurrection was far from their thoughts.

    LIFE after death?

    First:

    You can not get to LIFE after death until you have dealt with sin.

    .. death spread to all mankind, because all sinned—

    Romans 5:12b NASB20

    וְכָל־יִשְׂרָאֵל עָֽבְרוּ אֶת־תּוֹרָתֶךָ וְסוֹר לְבִלְתִּי שְׁמוֹעַ בְּקֹלֶךָ וַתִּתַּךְ עָלֵינוּ הָאָלָה וְהַשְּׁבֻעָה אֲשֶׁר כְּתוּבָה בְּתוֹרַת מֹשֶׁה עֶֽבֶד־הָֽאֱלֹהִים כִּי חָטָאנוּ לֽוֹ׃

    Daniel 9:11 Masoretic Text with NASB20 translation

    And no man on earth can fully compensate God for the sin he has committed. No priest can intercede perfectly, save One.

    Second.

    The Messiah Jesus was left for dead in the grave of a man.

    The Son of Man (born into Adam’s image) was witnessed through His many signs and miracles as the Son of God, incarnate of the Holy Spirit of the LORD. God IS His Father and Jesus IS our heavenly Father’s only Son, though all in Christ have become His children. (It is a great mystery rooted in love, mercy and grace.)

    Third.

    JESUS CHRIST was sinless. He lived the human life of a mortal for thirty some years. Yet God sent His Only Son to the CROSS!

    So WHY was a SINLESS man executed, even the MESSIAH of God’s chosen?

    Romans 3:

    • 21..the righteousness of God has been revealed
      • (He lived in human flesh but did not succumb to the sin of the flesh. – RH)
    • 24 ..as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith.

    Propitiation, a word to which 21st century culture cannot relate, is important (and not too complicated).

    Jews of the first century understood it as did the Jews in the generations of Moses and Elijah.

    READ its significance below & be convicted of what Jesus did for you on the Cross:

    The Covenant of God’s chosen with the LORD was broken.

    Propitiation – used of the cover of the ark of the covenant in the Holy of Holies, which was sprinkled with the blood of the expiatory victim on the annual day of atonement (this rite signifying that the life of the people, the loss of which they had merited by their sins, was offered to God in the blood as the life of the victim, and that God by this ceremony was appeased and their sins expiated); hence the lid of expiation, the propitiatory

    Strong’s G2435 – hilastērion – Blueletterbible.org
    lamb bound on the altar of sacrifice

    .. for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,

    • an expiatory sacrifice
    • a expiatory victim

    .. whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation G2435 in His blood through faith.

    Finally.

    Christ on the Cross from movie The Passion of the Christ

    “You shall not offer the blood of My sacrifice with leavened bread, nor is the sacrifice of the Feast of the Passover to be left over until morning.

    Exodus 34:25 NASB20
    The required Blood of the Covenant was now met with Sacrifice of the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
    Roman soldier spears the body of Jesus on the cross

    Therefore because of the Jewish day of preparation, since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there.

    John 19:42

    The DEATH of the LAMB is accomplished. Sin is buried by the Sacrifice of the Sinless.

    Resurrection – LIFE by grace

    What were Jesus’ closest disciples feeling and remembering early that Easter morning?

    They must have thought of His incarnate life extinguished so violently on a Cross last Friday and duty to complete the embalming of their Lord’s entombed flesh.

    DEATH, then taken up like Elijah?

    Would they have even thought back to what Jesus had said about Moses or Elijah — concerning His own death or resurrection?

    Those near Golgotha would have recalled his CRY before death.

    At the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, “ELOI, ELOI, LEMA SABAKTANEI?” which is translated,

    “MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?”

    Mark 15:34 NASB20

    Did they remember what some Jews in the crowds had mocked?

    “Look! He is calling for Elijah!”

    Mark 15:35b

    No — the Lord Jesus was NOT taken up from the Cross in glory into a chariot of fire in heaven.

    He died and hung there +++ only to be buried in a tomb.

    Mourning Moses, yet not their Messiah

    Jesus had invoked Moses and the Law as accusers of the Jews who would crucify Him, yet leaves room for grace. (For many of the Jews believed in Him publicly or privately.)

    “Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father; the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have put your hope. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.

    Mark 5:45-46

    Did they remember Jesus’ answer about the resurrection?

    3 crosses, cave tomb with stone rolled away
    Joseph rolled a large stone against the entrance of the tomb and went away.
    Luke 20:

    “But as for the fact that the dead are raised, even Moses revealed this in the passage about the burning bush, where he calls the Lord THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB. Now He is not the God of the dead, but of the living; for all live to Him.”

    Luke 24:

    But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. 2 And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus…

    That’s really it, is it not? — It’s what we want to know about the resurrection:

    ..“Why are you seeking the living One among the dead?

    6 He is not here, but He has risen.

    Remember how He spoke to you while He was still in Galilee, saying that the Son of Man must be handed over to sinful men, and be crucified, and on the third day rise from the dead.”

    8 And they remembered His words, and returned from the tomb and reported all these things to the eleven, and to all the rest.

    THEY DID NOT FIND THE BODY.

    This was the miraculous scene concerning the Son of God who had performed MANY signs and miracles.

    Will OUR BODY be there when WE go to the grave?

    YES! But, we will NOT — for our Soul formed into flesh and bone will rise to the judgment or to the Lord our God. Our body returning to the dust of creation will also rise; but too many questions about our resurrections body to address here today.

    Death + NOT THE END +

    Luke 24:

    38 And He said to them,

    “Why are you frightened, and why are doubts arising in your hearts?

    It’s a tough question when confronting death and life, isn’t it?

    44 Now He said to them,

    “These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all the things that are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.”

    45 Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and He said to them,

    “So it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

    48 You are witnesses of these things…

    Are you? Even though you did not put your fingers into His hands and pierced side, DO YOU BELIEVE, my dear brother, beloved sister in Christ our RISEN Lord?

    Do you talk of Jesus as if He IS – witness Jesus as if He is your Lord and Savior from your sin?

    And what of LIFE after death. In Him and through Him, DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RESURECTION?

    LIFE, after DEATH!

    in CHRIST JESUS + TO BE CONTINUED…

    Amen.
  • JOHN 2020 Good News for A.D. 2020

    JOHN 2020 Good News for A.D. 2020

    Intro to the Gospel of John

    IN THE BEGINNING: λόγος logos

    Intro to talk of Jesus .com

    in A. D. 2020

    talk of Jesus .com shared the Gospel of John

    in the context of A.D. 90, with application to A.D. 2020,

    rather than chronologically, culturally or by chapter & verse..

    ..while during recent months:
    • some sought to stream the stage of worship
    • some sent seeker-friendly scripture into our homes
    • some church communities disintegrated while others diminished & distanced (like our 2020 remote office meetings complete with slides).

    To review the Gospel of John, simply click on any link in the outline below & it will open in a new window.

    Roger – author of A.D. 2020 series on the Gospel of John

    I hope you were blessed by the secure links to reliable sites for further study of Scripture, as well as insight into the 1st century church of John’s Gospel (written ~A.D.- 90).

    Scripture encourages us to a more mature faith.


    John’s Prologue – Good News!

    IN THE BEGINNING was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.

    ALL THINGS came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of

    MANKIND.

    And the Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not grasp it.

    14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    talkofJesus.com Again Jesus said, "Follow Me."

    No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God [Son] who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

    John 1:18 NASB

    The Book of the Prologue

    John’s Prologue [1:1-18], from which the Apostle next proceeds to the testimony of John the Baptist and the Messiah’s calling of the Twelve, states many important theological themes & along with his Epilogue [21:1-25 {linked below}] provides additional depth of purpose of John’s Gospel.

    John’s Prologue & Epilogue

    “Follow Me

    In A.D. 2020, this is where we began our deep dive into the Good News of John.

    Signs – Jesus IS the Messiah

    painting of Hebrews in the wi

    Unless the Father draws you – Signs

    John 3: “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.” …

    Teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ

    Gospel of John

    “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! – John 1:29b

    As Jesus passed by, He saw a man who had been blind from birth. – John 9:1

    Are you greater than our father Abraham who died? And the prophets died. Who do you claim to be?” – John 8:53

    “But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. – John 10:26-28

    Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise from the dead.” .. “I am the resurrection and the life; the one who believes in Me will live, even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?” – John 11:23,25

    two men in discussion behind this building is closes sign in a large church

    The Hour Is Come

    “Indeed, an hour is coming, and has come, when each of you will be scattered to his own home..

    .. You will have suffering in this world. Be courageous! I have conquered the world.”

    • John 16:32-34 excerpt CSB
    • “Take heart,” the Lord Jesus encourages disciples, I have overcome the world.”

    And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

    John 20:20 KJV

    Unrelenting Bad NEWS of A.D. 2020

    What must I do with the GOOD NEWS

    of Jesus Christ?

    Good News for A.D. 2020 – A.D. ∞

    Hear all the unrelenting bad news of yesterday or today.

    For followers of Jesus, His death diminished life’s hope in eternal life; that is until the Gospel of the Lord’s resurrection reached the eyes and ears and touch of His dearly beloved friends.

    John and the Disciples witnessed the Lord Jesus in His Risen Flesh many times after His resurrection.

    “Peace be with you.”

    And when He had said this, He showed them both His hands and His side. The disciples then rejoiced when they saw the Lord.

    John 20:20

    Their sorrow had turned into joy and so must ours; for in Christ Jesus his disciples of every generation have eternal life through His sacrifice for our sins. This is our Gospel, His Good News to those who would believe.

    NEWS of A.D. 2021

    SEE what follows JOHN 2020 in JOHN 2021.

    “Peace to you,” yet also a command of the risen Christ Jesus.

    & without Him:

    EXPECT MORE BAD NEWS

    John 20:20

    John’s Epilogue

    John 20:30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples that are not written in this book.

    But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

    John 20:21 CSB

    I pray that the Lord has blessed you through the Gospel of John in A.D. 2020

    Roger – Roger@talkofJesus.com
    May our Lord Jesus Christ 
    draw you into His grace, 
    giving you new hope of Eternal Life
    in the YEAR OF OUR LORD 2021,
    in the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
    AMEN.

  • Rumors of Life & Death

    Rumors of Life & Death

    Reporters of News

    And this rumour of him went forth throughout all Judaea, and throughout all the region round about.

    Gospel of Luke 7:17 – KJV

    Sojourners become clarions of news to uninformed ears in new places from the places where they have witnessed life.

    The ‘rumour‘ to which the Gospel-writer Luke refers (above) is Jesus’ raising a young man from his coffin along his own funeral procession in Nain in remote Galilee. Other English translations of the same Greek word [λόγος] use “report.”

    When we return to John’s Gospel (Good News) we will encounter such reports again, some stories which veer from the truth.

    Good News/Bad News: True or False?

    The Disciples who traveled with Jesus from town to town reported the Good News of Jesus the Messiah of Israel to many who had not heard in places distant from the events they had witnessed. Reliable reports from other witnesses also reached the ears of thousands who had not yet seen Jesus in Person.

    The four written NEWS accounts of JESUS CHRIST are not the only news of the Savior. Many reports are oral, even many first-hand stories from witnesses to Jesus’ many miraculous events recorded by the Apostles.

    Picture the Apostles after Jesus’ death and resurrection as reporters and add to their number every saint of the Church who consequently believed their report of the Lord Jesus Christ, then you may realize why John and others had to address false reports of their time.

    While reading the Gospels we discover many who reject the “Good News” of Jesus which challenges one or more of their earthly embraces of sin. Many reject God and refuse to acknowledge or let go of their sins.

    Some will believe in anything in order to deny the Truth.

    Roger Harned – talk of Jesus .com

    All the REPORTERS of Jesus had to be taken at face value for their rumors (stories) of the Messiah. Those who did not witness an event had to ask themselves the same questions we would ask today.

    • Is this even possible?
    • Is their report TRUE or FALSE in some way?
    • If it is true, is this GOOD NEWS or BAD NEWS for me?
    • How should I react? (What must I do?)
    • What is my response to this NEWS to others who have not heard?

    Brief Vitae of the Good News Reporters

    As mentioned previously in Witnesses to Jesus Risen! John and the Apostles continue to report their GOSPEL to others until the end of their lives and John writes to some who have witnessed even more miracles than he reports in his Gospel.

    Briefly from our Gospel archives take a look at these dates of the reports.

    • Jesus was crucified around the year AD 30
    • John Mark’s Gospel – before AD 49; martyred AD 68
    • Matthew’s Gospel – as early as AD 50, before martyrdom ~AD 60
    • the physician Luke’s Gospel/Acts – AD 60-61, prior to the great persecution that began under Nero in A.D. 64; Luke likely martyred in AD 84
    • John writes his Gospel to the churches after AD 85 [~AD 90-100]
    • 2nd c. AD – many Church fathers, disciples of John, Peter & others, testify to the truth of their Gospels and oppose false reports by false teachers.

    Countering False Reports

    So this rumor spread to the brothers and sisters that this disciple would not die. Yet Jesus did not tell him that he would not die, but, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? ”

    John 21:23 CSB

    John 21:

    Recall from John’s previous report [Witnesses to Jesus Risen! – Peter] of a third time they encountered Jesus after His resurrection:

    5 So Jesus said to them, “Children, you do not have any fish to eat, do you?” .. 7 Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, “It is the Lord!”

    • Peter enthusiastically dove into the water and swam to meet Jesus on shore before the other Disciples came onshore in a boat filled with fish.
    • Simon Peter and Jesus have a conversation about feeding His sheep and Simon hesitates in his answers to the Lord (our Shepherd).
    • Jesus asks:
      • “Simon, son of John, do you agapaō Me more than these?” then, “Simon, son of John, do you agapaō Me? and finally,
      • “Simon, son of John, do you phileō Me?”
    • Peter’s hesitates in answering Jesus call to agapaō and each time confirming that he loves Him (phileō differing slightly in meaning).
    • The Lord commands him with some subtlety after each response:
      1. Tend My lambs.
      2. Shepherd My sheep.
      3. Tend My sheep.

    And to the reader knowing that Peter has already died for his Lord, (Peter’s dearly departed friend) John offers an explanation.

    17 .. Peter was hurt because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You..

    Good News, Bad News

    John gives the reader some ‘bad news,’ which is no longer NEWS to most and the ‘good news,’ which the other Apostles also witnessed. (Most of them had also died for their witness of the risen Christ Jesus!)

    So the rumor spread among the community of believer that this disciple wouldn’t die.

    Rumor vs. TRUTH

    • Who said it?
    • What is the RUMOR?
    • Where were they when it happened?
    • When might this have taken place?
    • Why would your NEWS source tell you?
    • How does this impact you?

    WHO DO YOU BELIEVE?

    As the last surviving Apostle, John witnesses the Good News of Jesus Christ and His resurrection for decades!

    What happens when a rumor creates a myth short of truth?

    This would happen later when the Church tells stories not supported by Scripture.

    When the saying (or story or myth) multiplies, then eventually encounters truth what most certainly will happen? The rumor is crushed and faith along with it (when the aging Apostle dies).

    And remember, regardless of when or how the saying had started, it has already been around for a time since the original witness is some fifty years before John writes his Gospel truth.

    Many disciples of The Way and saints of the church might easily elevate John (or for that matter, Simon Peter, other Apostles or even family of Jesus) to glory and worship due only the LORD.

    John’s simple approach to false witness

    The always esteemed and ever truthful Disciple does two things:

    1. John states the false witness (translated: saying, rumor, story)
    2. He refutes it by his own authoritative true witness.

    WHO DO YOU BELIEVE? It’s as simple as that.

    The incident in question involves what JESUS said to Simon Peter. Only six other Disciples including John witness it first hand. So John states:

    • 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die:
    • yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die;
      • (FALSE rumor – John categorically states: – Jesus said NOT)
    • but,
      • (here is the truth I witnessed, says John)
    • [Jesus said ..],
      • If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? [KJV] or
    • “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you?” – NASB

    The Disciple by quoting Jesus refutes the rumor of John’s alleged immortality told in this story circulating among early Christians.

    John squashes this rumor before it can multiply into false teaching which will cause us to doubt the ‘Gospel Truth.’

    His own witness, true to facts unknown through rumor, states what happened (decades ago):

    • 20 Peter turned around and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them—the one who also had leaned back on His chest at the supper and said, “Lord, who is the one who is betraying You?”
    • So Peter, upon seeing him, said to Jesus, “Lord, and what about this man?”
    • Jesus said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow Me!”
      • Peter turned around, John was following him and Jesus.
      • Peter asked the Lord about John, because Jesus had just told Peter:

    18b “.. when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands and someone else will put your belt on you, and bring you where you do not want to go.”

    • John tells the reader, who likely knows of Peter’s crucifixion, why Jesus said this.
    • After having refuted the rumor with the truth, John puts his seal on the whole truth of restating the ‘story.’

    This is the disciple who is testifying about these things and wrote these things, and we know that his testimony is true.

    John 21:24 NASB
    cross words Who's in charge? and a question of Authority

    John’s closing is comparable to Paul writing, “I sign this in my own hand.” At stake is the Authority & Truth of the Lord Jesus

    Rather than adding questions on this section of John,
    I leave you to question Truth vs. fiction.
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