Tag: Christ

  • Distinction between the Kingdom and the Church of Christ

    Distinction between the Kingdom and the Church of Christ

    Kingdom OR Church?

    Is distinction lacking in the Gospel of YOUR Church?

    WE like to think that OUR Church has a great vision of Gospel grace, but do we PREACH any distinction between DOCTRINES and the WORK of evangelical ‘christians’ from OUR stages of worship?

    For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him for “WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”

    Romans 10:12-13 LSB
    That's very nice - a good glance at WHO could be part of the church. 
    BUT the Bible bids us to make some distinctions.

    So you will return and see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve Him.

    For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every worker of wickedness will be chaff; and the day that is coming will set them aflame,” says Yahweh of hosts, “so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.”

    Malachi 3:18-19 [4:1]

    What are the distinctions of Denominations?

    • ARE SOME christian‘ churches the chaff of wicked false teaching?
    • Is the gospel of YOUR church drawing in sinners while making no distinction of sin?
    • SHOULD some DENOMINATIONS be sifted as anathema to Christ’s Church?
      • (So they want to leave PROCLAIMING their SIN proudly?
      • Let them go!)

    WICKEDNESS is nothing NEW in any 21st century church OR limited to the Old Testament.

    • Do SOME lead worship or TEACH a class you attend NEVER ASKING:
      • Do YOU make any distinction?
      • between
        • the damned of the world
        • and the repentant sinner SAVED by CHRIST JESUS?

    Listen to Paul’s approach to making distinction between gifts and their usefulness to believers of the church:

    .. what will I profit you unless I speak to you either by way of revelation or of knowledge or of prophecy or of teaching? Yet even lifeless things, either flute or harp, in producing a sound, if they do not produce a distinction in the tones, how will it be known what is played on the flute or on the harp?

    For if the trumpet produces an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle?

    The Apostle Paul’s first letter to the Church at Corinth 6b-8

    Listen to the trumpet! SOME in the church are chaff!


    FOUR Distinctions of Church Doctrine

    As we continue discussion from our last Saturday Post just a reminder here that teaching is doctrine. (And so is preaching doctrine, as well as what doctrines which we neglect to preach. – RH)

    LLOYD-JONES book makes distinctions that the church is an expression of the kingdom of God but  cannot be equated with it.

    The theologian Lloyd-Jones outlines

    What are the distinctions of Denominations?

    The First Distinction

    The essential difference between the church and the kingdom of God is that the church is an “expression” of the kingdom, but cannot be “equated” with it.

    The church is an expression of the kingdom “wherever the Lord Jesus Christ is acknowledged as Lord.”

    D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones – source

    The Second Distinction

    The Distinction between the Spiritual, Invisible Church

    AND

    the Local, Visible Church


    FROM Paul and all the brothers who are with me,

    To the churches of Galatia: – Galatians 1:2

    ταῖς ἐκκλησίαις ho ekklēsiaTO: The Churches

    Paul and his Christian brothers write to the churches. They are not claiming to write to everyone in Galatia or Corinth or EVERYONE anywhere else in the idol-worshiping gentile world.

    Is that OUR approach?

    • Isn’t it nice to watch some preacher online (or on T.V.) and conveniently claim to the culture that you are ‘a christian?”
      • ARE YOU?
        • Simply because YOU watched some christian preacher saying graceful things?

    Lloyd-Jones declares that Paul speaks not of “one unit divided into local branches” but of individual churches or a plurality of units in Galatia.

    Of course we’re talking about the SPIRITUAL INVISIBLE CHURCH here.

    Which ‘christian’ are YOU?

    • Spiritual Christian of the Invisible Church PLUS a Local MEMBER of a Visible Church
    • NOT a member of Christ’s Invisible Church, BUT a visible MEMBER of YOUR LOCAL church
    • NOT a Spiritual Christian OR a MEMBER of any visible Local Church
      • (YOU just ‘go to church’ occasionally.)
    • Spiritual Christian of the Invisible Church, BUT invisible worshiper NOT a MEMBER of ANY LOCAL CHURCH.

    The Third Distinction

    Biblical Unity or Ecumenical Unity?

    ‘The ecumenical movement has tended to minimize doctrinal definitions of what makes someone a Christian.. ecumenical unity is a far cry from Biblical unity.’

    “..believers cannot have church unity without unity around the apostle’s teaching..

    Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

    If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works. 2 John 1:9-11 ESV

    “..the Doctor explains:

    The significance he [John the Elder] attaches to doctrine and to truth is so great that he says, in effect, ‘You mustn’t receive the man into your house because if you do you’re encouraging him. If you give him a meal and send him on his journey you are encouraging his false doctrine. Don’t do it.’”

    Lloyd-Jones, The Church and the Last Things

    If there are spiritual and doctrinal marks that make one church true and another church false, then those marks must be clearly stated and explained.

    The Doctor’s Doctrine, p. 106

    The Fourth Distinction

    As if dealing with the previous three distinctions was not already enough to consider, Lloyd-Jones now adds an even more challenging look at THREE marks of a TRUE CHURCH.

    The Distinction between Right and Wrong

    Of course by now we must NOT be asking once more, 'What is truth?' as if truth or 'right and wrong' are a matter of subjective personal opinion rather than an objective Biblical standard by which Christians may claim God's Word as Good News to those who will believe.
    1. the Word is truly preached
    2. the sacraments are truly administered, AND (look out, here..)
    3. discipline is truly exercised

    Right Preaching and Wrong Preaching

    The church is “essential to believers,” because conversion means they are “born as babes in Christ” and desperately need to be “instructed” and “warned against error and safeguarded against heresy.”

    Lloyd-Jones, The Church and the Last Things
    Do you really believe that? doctrine - a line in the sand [picture of Jesus kneeling down to draw a line with his finger
    Of course since I am NOT a preacher, 
    I could say anything I want IF subjective truth 
    rather than Biblical truth was our standard of 
    right and wrong.

    But by the standard of doctrine rooted in Biblical truth NO theologian (even Lloyd-Jones or your preacher) should take subjective liberties in preaching the Gospel.

    2 Timothy 4:

    I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom:

    • preach the word;
    • be ready in season and out of season;
    • reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and teaching.

    And what does the Apostle Paul prophesy to his disciple of the way, the truth and the life as REASON ENOUGH to remain faithful to Scripture?

    For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

    Second Letter of the Apostle Paul to Timothy 4:3-4 LSB

    ARE WE THERE YET?

    Preaching in the last days

    Again, the standard isn't mine (IF you accept the Doctrinal line in the sand of Scripture.

    .. in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts..

    The Apostle Peter reminds the church in is final letter, The Day of the Lord Will Come:

    The Lord .. is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

    But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up].

    Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way,

    what sort of people ought you to be…

    What sort of men and women proclaiming Christ Jesus OUGHT WE to be?

    READ more from 2 Peter 3:11-


  • Two-faced Tolerance :)(: of the Church Against Christ

    Two-faced Tolerance :)(: of the Church Against Christ

    “But there are some of you who do not believe.”

    “Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?”

    Gospel of John 6:64a, 70b LSB [in context]

    Jesus chose Judas as a Disciple of his master’s teaching [doctrine], yet Judas betrayed his lord Jesus with a greeting of love.

    How can you call yourself a church?

    (YOU who do not believe)?

    Are YOU a two-faced Judas?

    Like Judas, many christians in the 21st c. ‘church‘ also claim to follow Jesus as THEIR lord and teacher. These zealous lovers of the world want to GROW THEIR church. After all, WE the church could do good for all the world IF ONLY we would embrace all of these humans into OUR community of faith.

    There’s ONE problem though for which WE must find a solution:

    NOT everyone believes in ONE God.

    AND most will not want to follow JESUS even if they accept SOME of Christ’s teaching.

    Judas did NOT believe that God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ sent Christ into the world to save sinners, but rather that God might make HIS lord a king to rule HIS land and the world.

    But what would OUR church look like IF JESUS would have built it on the shifting sand of the faith of Judas?

    Many Teachers facing NOT One

    In fact, the church of the world would prefer to follow multiple teachers, rather than trust and rely on the doctrine of ANY ONE Master, Lord, King or God.

    OR perhaps a great teacher can lead ME to create MY own morality like THEIRS from the best religions of all humanity. (I don’t have to follow THEM, just pick and choose from the best THEY have to offer. After all, THEY seem to be building something NEW that attracts more attention than the worn out worship of christian churches INTOLERANT of NEW teaching. (No one wants to hear preaching from the Bible anymore).

    Many of you ‘who do not believe.’

    It’s NOT just one in twelve who claim Jesus, yet do NOT believe. And in the 21st c. church it’s more than a few among those who claim His name a ‘christian.’

    In fact these are two-faced followers glorify one face for the world under the guise of religion, while masking a shadowed countenance betraying Christ’s sacrifice of glory for the redemption of our souls.

    YES, many mask as christians in the flock of your church, while a select few even claim the gospel of some Jesus from the pulpit – a tolerant savior who will help YOU to bring peace to a world which will never accept the Gospel of His exclusive holiness.

    Christ Jesus says to such leaders of OUR churches:

    “You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father.

    He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

    Gospel of John 8:44

    “But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me.

    John 8:45 LSB – the rebuke of Jesus Christ

    Why not preach the Gospel?

    IF you are a Christian — IF you are truly a disciple (follower) of Jesus Christ — IF you are a 21st century christian (as you claim), THEN why do you preach some other gospel in place of the words our Lord Jesus Christ said?

    Is our gospel Biblical OR cultural?

    Today I will develop the premise of Harrison's first point from my last Saturday Post as we take a look at an all-inclusive church of everythingology through the eyes of another respected theologian.
    Previously, I shared a caution from Harrison's FIVE-POINT PROGRESSION of Evangelical Deconstructionism. WE will start there.
    
    EMBRACE and posit [plant or assume] the idea [philosophy] that the CHURCH is a SOCIALLY constructed system, 
    NOT a divinely ordained idea [institution] that originated in the mind of God.
    

    For IF Scripture, the WRITTEN Word of God in the BIBLE, is NOT divinely ordained; THEN the church, even ‘christian‘ ‘evangelicals‘ who claim some jesus‘ or some of some Jesus can RE-WORD god’s word to include whatever WE would like it to say to the world.

    Two-faced Tolerance

    Contemporary tolerance is intrinsically intolerant.

    D.A. Carson, The Intolerance of Tolerance

    Church leaders must examine the theology of christians teaching the Bible with liberal exclusion of refining of Scripture in their local church.

    We mustn’t dismiss or include a cultural phenomenon of evangelicalism of the past several decades without examining both traditional and evolved definitions of trends leavening the church.

    READ more of Carson's introductory quote:

    The notion of tolerance is changing, and with the new definitions the shape of tolerance itself has changed…

    It is blind to it’s own shortcomings because it erroneously thinks it holds the moral high ground; it cannot be questioned because it has become part of the West’s plausibility structure.

    D.A. Carson, The Intolerance of Tolerance, p.2

    Carson illumines and points to a subtle (and two-faced) evolution of English definitions of what it means to be tolerant.

    Tolerance as a verb

    Continuing to quote Carson:

    Oxford English Dictionary [abridged def.]:

    1. To endure, sustain (pain or hardship) [‘That usage is becoming obsolete’ – DAC]
    2. To allow to exist.. without authoritative interference.., to allow, permit
    3. .. To allow intellectually, .. or principle, to put up with.

    Tolerance as a noun

    Quoting the evolved digital definition of the Gates' cultural philosophy and approach in Microsoft Encarta, Carson notes:

    “When we turn from Encarta’s treatment of the corresponding noun “tolerance,” however, a subtle change appears:

    • “1. ACCEPTANCE OF DIFFERENT VIEWS the accepting of different views of other people, e.g., in religious or political matters, and fairness toward the people who hold these different views.”
      • Encarta verb for tolerance: ACCEPT EXISTANCE OF DIFFERENT VIEWS.. of other people’s right to have different beliefs and practices.

    The shift from ‘accepting the existence of different views’ to ‘acceptance of different views’ .. is subtle in form, but massive in substance. To accept that a different or opposing position exists is one thing; to accept the position itself means that one is no longer opposing it.

    D.A. Carson, The Intolerance of Tolerance p.3

    OUR social gathering – a jesus WE love 🙂

    coexist and tolerance = apostasy
    What about the INTOLERANT exclusive claims of the Lord Jesus Christ?

    “Do you think that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division – Luke 12:51

    And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE, – Matthew 19:4

    “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. – John 5:46

    “Many false prophets will arise and will deceive many. – Matthew 24:11

    Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through Me. – John 14:6

    “For the gate is narrow and the way is constricted that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

    “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves…

    “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

    Gospel of Matthew 7:14-15, 21 LSB
    WE will have to avoid these socially discriminating teachings of OUR jesus (or else WE will never attract anyone NEW to OUR church. 

    Indiscriminately Tolerant

    As you can see once again, Christology and Theology may be at odds with prevailing social philosophy which USES a loose interpretation of the Bible to fill the house with non-committal christians.

    Want to see IF your tolerant friends YOU invited to OUR church have ears to hear what OUR jesus has to say about peace and love and OUR world?

    TRY putting one of the above sayings of JESUS from ANY good English translation ON THE BIG SCREEN ABOVE THE STAGE OF YOUR WORSHIP gathering on Sunday. See if YOUR increasing audience of worldly friends smiling 🙂 YOUR way can still smile (: when the BIBLE shows THEM an INTOLERANT jesus?

    See how they react to the exclusive truth of Scripture!

    We will continue with this challenge of betrayal of Christ by a Judas or two of OUR 21st century dividing denominations of CHRIST's Church in my next Saturday Post on the Church, God-willing.
  • Stand fast therefore in the liberty

    Stand fast therefore in the liberty

    It’s Memorial Day (celebrated holiday in the not-so-united States).

    free for what

    Flags for freedom flown for feasting leaders of the free world or drawn to half staff for some politically offensive act of violence by an ungodly man.

    Hardly a memorial to any who have died for the freedom of any man or woman who suffers the ravages of war and injustice in an evil world of the year of our Lord 2022.

    Therefore, claimer of Christ, communicant of the Church, Evangelical Patriot who claims the crusade of christian UNDER GOD, it must be US who have failed in our pursuit of freedom, liberty and most of all righteousness as an example to our fellow man (that is, creating being in the image of the Lord God).

    Letter of Paul to the Church at Galatia (1st c. A.D.)

    Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.

    Galatians 5:1 NKJV

    A Question to ‘christians’

    I ask YOU,

    • ‘evangelical christian’
    • roman catholic
    • orthodox christ claimant
    • liberal tolerant lover of anyone of the world

    I ask you the same question as Paul asked the Jews in first century Galatia:

    For once YOU ran well.

    Who hindered you from obeying the truth?

    Galatians 5:7 NKJV

    Paul speaks to the Jews of his day, but his question about freedom applies to US, WE THE PEOPLE who use GOD and claim CHRIST in those times when it is most politically expedient to claim TRUTH.

    The Truth of Freedom

    Although men and women may fight for it, be maimed by it, flee from it and even die for it; liberty and freedom have little to do with ever-changing currents of political action in places of providential blessing or demonic deference to rule of some despot.

    God in Christ Jesus calls any who would run this race of mortal – yes MORTAL, not immortal LIFE – to not again be yoked in the slavery of sin.

    For you were called to be free, brothers and sisters; only don’t use this freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but serve one another through love.

    Galatians 5:13 Christian Standard Bible

    For the whole law is fulfilled in one statement:

    Love your neighbor as yourself.

    But if you bite and devour one another, watch out, or you will be consumed by one another.

    Galatians 5:15 CSB

    Are WE THE PEOPLE truly ‘ONE NATION under god’ in the Common Era of error led by sinful man recreating US in the image of resconstructed truth?

    Roger@TalkofJESUS.com

    Do WE THE PEOPLE truly believe, in A.D. [the year of our Lord] 2022:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident,

    • all men are created..
    • that certain ‘rights’ are endowed by their Creator
    • That the ‘Bill of Rights’ forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others NOT promoting FREEDOM FROM RELIGION?

    The basis of law is the LAW of God.

    A CLAIM under GOD.

    WE THE PEOPLE may not memorialize evil as we no longer as a NATION stand faithful anymore than ISRAEL could still claim covenant which they broke long before the REDEMPTION by CHRIST JESUS, the Son of GOD WHO was and IS and will judge all men.

    Orthodox? Catholic? Evangelical?

    As in Galatia, our CLAIM to Christ is not enough.

    Now the works of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, moral impurity, promiscuity, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambitions, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and anything similar.

    I am warning you about these things ​— ​as I warned you before ​— ​that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    Galatians 5:19-21 CSB

    24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

    If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit.

    Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.


    Thank God Almighty that we are FREE — FREE at last in Christ Jesus.

    “Having eyes, do you not see? And having ears, do you not hear? And do you not remember?

    The Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ from Mark 8:18