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  • And Now the News – Just the Facts

    And Now the News – Just the Facts

    Moreover — and as a matter of fact, the Apostle continues — here are the facts of the Gospel of the resurrection and Christ once more (for your logical Greek reasoning).


    Letters & NEWS

    As we have read in the Apostle’s first epistle to the Corinthian saints, letters are personal and recall a connection of love between Paul and those in Corinth.

    I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus, that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge— even as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among you—

    .. I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree..

    1 Corinthians 1:4-10a excerpt ESV

    The Apostle states his obstacles common to the Corinthians — a diverse church in every way — at the outset of his epistle:

    For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom,

    but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles

    Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians 1:22-23 ESV

    And the Apostle establishes his own authority in Christ — the head of the Church who died for sinners.

    Though I am free of obligation to anyone, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews.

    1 Corinthians 9:19-20a ESV

    Yet Paul’s pathos and personal connection to the Corinthians appeals to all who love the Lord — Jew and Greek and Romans who worship as saints of one Church — this one in first century Corinth.


    The Parthenon in Athens a place to honor and worship all the gods
    The Parthenon

    Logic

    Recall from our previous look at Paul’s personal letter that even though a remnant of Jews live in Corinth (and the smaller ancient city of Athens), the culture of his audience is Greek.

    (Even the Romans mimicked worship of the Greek gods and goddesses.) 
    Tethys - titan goddess - a grandmother of the goddess Ephyra - namesake of Corinth
    In Greek mythology, Tethys was Consort of Oceanus, father of the river gods and goddesses including a Greek goddess who founded Corinth named Ephyra.

    What’s missing for Greek worshippers?

    The connections between credibility and impact.

    • How can worshippers of myths — a myriad of made-up gods and goddesses — purport LOGIC as truth?

    In fact, the FACTS of logic built on false premises do not add up.

    This is Paul’s cultural challenge — and ours.

    Paul’s personal letter to the Corinthian saints (church).

    The Apostle’s connection of logic to his Greek audience is agape (love).

    “IF I have not love (charity) [agape], I am nothing.

    1 Corinthians 13:2

    As for the difference of Paul’s beliefs in God:

    Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand..

    1 Corinthians 15:1 ESV

    Before we list Paul’s FACTS for believers, let’s examine this Greek culture of logic in the light of truth cast upon the temples of many mythical gods and goddesses of Corinth.

    Truths revealed to our minds

    The following quoted in part from WARRANTED CHRISTIAN BELIEF PP290-294

    What more is there to faith than belief?

    What distinguishes the Christian believer from the demons?

    ——

    “You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!

    Epistle of James to the Church 2:19 ESV

    They believe these things, but hate them;

    and they also hate God.

    WARRANTED CHRISTIAN BELIEF P.291

    Is it not so?

    Hasn’t this hatred of God also been your experience at simply the mention of Jesus Christ?


    Perhaps they also hope against hope that these things aren’t really so..

    in a self-deceived way..

    the problem here is not merely cognitive..

    but.. Promethean..

    ibid.

    Cultural ‘science‘ of Promethean Logic

    Prometheus statue in NYC Rockefeller Center

    COVID-masked Prometheus statue at Rockefeller Center NYC, US as seen on the News

    Prometheus, in Greek religion, one of the Titans, the supreme trickster, and a god of fire. His intellectual side was emphasized by the apparent meaning of his name, Forethinker. In common belief he developed into a master craftsman, and in this connection he was associated with fire and the creation of mortals.

    Source: Britannica

    WE must think to the AD 55 Corinthian culture, as well as our own Common Era challenges of preaching the Good News of Jesus Christ, in these ‘Promethean‘ terms of logic —scientific facts of the world masked as NEWS.

    Roger@TalkofJesus.com

    The demons, no doubt, are theists and also believe of God that he exists; because they do not trust and love God and do not make his purposes their own.

    ibid. p.294

    Heretics — those who hate God — contend against Christ.


    Gospel Good News

    NOW, after stating that everything must be done in order, the Apostle Paul begins with the facts of the resurrection. AND note that he presents these FACTS as ‘of first importance.’

    Facts:

    For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance:

    1 Corinthians 15:3

    that Christ died for our sins..

     ὅτι Χριστὸς ἀπέθανεν ὑπὲρ τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν 
    Christ (christos) -- not simply JESUS or Lord or some other designation of His Person or earthly position.

    The Apostle Paul makes “CHRIST” christos — central to his FACTS to the Corinthians, using this Messianic designation (in Greek) over sixty times in this epistle.

    AND Paul’s protos point reminds us that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS

    (the Person of Jesus) Christ ἀποθνῄσκω died [apothnēskō] (as all men and women do)

    -- AN INDISPUTABLE FACT --

    Then Christ’s apostle to the gentiles reminds:

    ὑπὲρ τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν

    hyper egō hamartia

    for our sins 

    Christ’s apostle continues logically with a REASON (remember, these are Greeks seeking wisdom in this) for this indisputable fact that Jesus died on a Cross (some twenty years before this).

    And in his logical support of why Christ – the Messiah of the Jews – would do this, the Apostle cites God’s Holy written word:

    “.. according to the Scriptures [γραφή – graphē].


    AND logically following his FACT of Christ’s death Paul adds:

    that he was buried,

    that he was raised on the third day

    in accordance with the Scriptures,

    1 Corinthians 15:4 ESV

    Not such a big deal that Jesus was buried (although many criminals hung on Roman crosses were left as carrion for the carnivorous).

    It is the RESURRECTION of Christ which always ignites the Promethean detractors of truth.

    AND again Paul adds: “in accordance with the Scriptures.”

    NOW Paul logically follows-up from presenting his facts to the truthful testimony of eye witnesses.

    ὁράω – HE appeared:

    1. to Cephas (Peter)
    2. the Twelve (Jesus’ Disciples)
    3. Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep.
    4. to James (Jesus’ half-brother)
    5. then to all the apostles.
    6. the Apostle Paul

    Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me. For I am the least of the apostles, unworthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

    1 Corinthians 15:8-9 ESV

    We Preached + you believed the facts

    In the Apostle’s ‘reminder’ written to the believing saints of the church in Corinth, Paul begins with just the facts — provides witnesses — and now preaches once more what many had proclaimed in person.

    But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me was not in vain.

    On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God that is with me.

    Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.

    Paul’s first epistle to the Corinthians 15:10-11 ESV

    SINCE ~AD 33 — and for all these years of our Lord since — MANY WITNESSES of One Lord — have Preached and Proclaimed

    Jesus Christ crucified for our sins, buried, and raised from the dead — appearing, in fact, to many witnesses.

    and (when we preached)

    — you believed!


    But the Apostle is NOT FINISHED with this all-important proclamation of the Good FACTS of the Resurrection.

    NEXT, Paul will continue with the certainty of the resurrection of the dead.. and you must consider what this will mean to your own faith and mortal life.

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  • Propriety in Worship of the Church – 1 Corinthians 14

    Propriety in Worship of the Church – 1 Corinthians 14

    Paul wanted his churches to exhibit a modesty and propriety recognized by the surrounding culture, especially in worship.

    (1 Corinthians 14)

    THE BAKER ILLUSTRATED BIBLE COMMENTARY P.1303

    An Overview of Paul’s Epistle

    Most outlines of Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians include what we are about to read next under a smaller heading of ‘spiritual gifts’ or ‘the gifts of tongues and prophesy’ as part of a larger section of the epistle — as a conclusion of the previous chapters.

    Remember that like our letters to anyone it had no chapters.

    Without returning to my original introduction to 1 Corinthians, I would like to point to these larger points of Paul’s letter here:

    1 Corinthians
    • Response to their questions [chaps. 7-16]
    • Recommendation of others & closing

    One of the central cultural issues of propriety and order the Apostle has addressed in response to several Corinthian questions is that of the role of women.

    Within the Apostle’s response to the Corinthian elders some of these issues include:

    * Immorality in the Church (5:1–6:20)

    These issues applied to men certainly affect all women. 
    • But actually, I wrote you not to associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister and is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or verbally abusive, a drunkard or a swindler. Do not even eat with such a person.
      • 1 Cor 5:2
    • Flee sexual immorality! Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the person who is sexually immoral sins against his own body.
      • 1 Cor 6:18

    Marriage in the Church (7:1–40)

    • 3 A husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise a wife to her husband.
    • 10 To the married I give this command — not I, but the Lord — a wife is not to leave her husband.

    Liberty in the Church (8:1–11:1)

    This section ends with Paul's personal example: 

    Imitate me, as I also imitate Christ.

    AND — (as introduction to our current larger section of his epistle) — the Apostle continues by encouraging those who have done so.

    Worship in the Church (11:2–14:40)

    Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions just as I delivered them to you.

    3 But I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of the woman, and God is the head of Christ.

    – 1 Corinthians 11:2-3 CSB

    Intro to Apostolic instructions about Head Coverings

    • Roles of Men and Women in the Church (11:2–16)
    • The Lord’s Supper (11:17–34)
    • Spiritual Gifts (12:1–14:40)


    The Context of Worship – A.D. 55 or 2025 CE

    As you can see, the Apostle has introduced this smaller section of his letter about spiritual gifts in the context of worship

    AND that he has already addressed some of the roles of men and of women who worship the Lord Jesus Christ as the Apostle has ‘delivered‘the traditions’ to them.


    What is propriety?

    • for a first century Corinthian
    • or (for example) a 21st c. Cincinnatian
    Lady with blue and gilt garment, fan and sun hat, from Tanagra - 4c. BC

    This photo next to the BAKER commentary for 1 Corinthians 14 got my attention to focus back on

    the propriety and modesty of a classic Corinthian woman. 

    Propriety – conformity in socially acceptable conduct and speech, appropriateness, fear of offending against conventional rules of behavior especially between the sexes.

    source

    In light of this, consider propriety from the earlier BAKER quote.

    At Corinth he [Paul] was particularly concerned about women’s reputation. For women modest draped clothing with a head covering was common. (see 1 Corinthians 11:2-16),

    as seen here in a sculpture from 300 BC (Tanagra, Greece)

    ibid.


    Here is more background on the culture of Corinth named for a goddess descended from the Greek Titans [also pictured on our cover to this post].

    In Greek mythology, Tethys was Consort of Oceanus, father of the river gods and goddesses including a Greek goddess who founded Corinth named Ephyra.

    The Greeks and Romans honored many gods and goddesses of culture and worshipped these with some order and propriety, while worship of others included temple prostitutes, so much debauchery and excess witnessed in festive celebrations.

    (Sound familiar, 21st c. christian?)

    Yet the modesty of a proper woman is important to the Corinthians, both men and women, thus the Apostle’s insistence on the propriety of head-coverings in worship of the church.


    What’s allowed in proprietary worship of God?

    1 Corinthians 14:

    Concerning Prophesy and Tongues

    Pursue love and desire spiritual gifts, and especially that you may prophesy.

    .. The person who prophesies is greater than the person who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets so that the church may be built up.

    .. — since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, seek to excel in building up the church.

    13Therefore the person who speaks in a tongue should pray that he can interpret.


    Who’s in charge?

    Using several references from Paul's letters to the Corinthians in "DIVINE PROVIDENCE," STEPHEN CHARNOCK [pub. AD 1680, updated 2022] provides us with a helpful overview of the Apostle's thinking: 

    The edification of the church is the great end that we are commanded to work toward:

    Stephen Charnock – DIVINE PROVIDENCE, p.146

    Since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church.”

    1 Cor, 14:13 – ibid.


    Then, under the heading 'The Gifts and Common Grace of Bad Men and Women' Charnock addresses Paul's order of propriety mentioned in this and other epistles. 

    God is the giver of gifts, Christ is the governor of those gifts, and all is for your sake.

    ibid.

    I find this particularly helpful.

    Think of it:

    God the Father (or because of their Oneness in substance, God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) — who created ALL things —

    charges CHRIST (Jesus, the Person of the Son of Man and Son of God) — THE CORNERSTONE of the Church — as its governor

    with perfect distribution of the gifts to the church — gifts that GOD has given to the church for the LORD’s divine purpose for the sake of those chosen before creation to worship him .


    Now think of Jesus' parable of the wheat and the tares for this next one: 

    There are some husks that come up among men and women, and God uses them to shelter the church in common works, and he [GOD] restrains these men and women through the knowledge of Christ.

    God gives gifts to them out of love for his church, not out of love for them.

    DIVINE PROVIDENCE, P.147

    Get a grip on this: it’s not about YOU — God’s love is about HIS CHURCH.

    REMEMBER, what the Apostle has just written?

    • IF I [do any of so many things]
    • BUT have NOT [agape {love}]
    • I am nothing
    • and I gain nothing.

    Dearly beloved,

    Do you take this bond of your church to have and to hold..?


    OR is our desire to try out relationships of LOVE 

    to try out church es

    — NOT having or holding  any commitment to Christ Jesus  and His body the Church?


    What then, brothers?

    We realize that this is not a politically correct question in this common era (and some English translations soften it), but Paul uses the Greek word ἀδελφός - adelphos - a masculine noun for brethren. 

    What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation.

    Let all things be done for building up.

    1 Corinthians 14:26 ESV

    The Apostle, under Christ, under God addresses the men of the church — not the women saints of Corinth — as was proper in Corinthian culture.

    The Apostle has addressed:

    • quarreling among you, my brothers. (1:11)
    • But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. (3:1)
    • But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of.. [a long list of sins] (5:11)

    Brothers, do not be children in your thinking. Be infants in evil, but in your thinking be mature.

    1 Corinthians 14:20 ESV

    Order and Propriety

    Each of you (brothers).. (not the sisters.. and not ONLY the pastor in charge under Christ).

    What then is it, brothers? When you may come together, each has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation.

    Let all things be done for edification.

    1 Corinthians 14:26 Berean Literal Bible – [more study]

    • Tongues?
      • two or three at most
      • in turn &
      • must have interpretation
    • Prophets?
      • two or three
      • others weigh in on what is said
      • IF a personal revelation is made to one present, the man receiving it must remain silent.
      • all may profit by learn and be encouraged by (this kind of) prophesy
      • prophets are subordinate [hypotassōto] to each other

    Now do not be offended by Paul's next orderly instruction for worship — for it uses the same Greek word [hypotassō] — for the Corinthian women of propriety and modesty expected in worship. 

    For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.

    As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches.

    For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission , as the Law also says.

    1 Corinthians 14:33-34 ESV

    Note that the Apostle — who has been addressing order and propriety in worship throughout his epistle to the saints of Corinth — also speaks to ALL the CHURCHES [ekklēsia] of the SAINTS [hagios].


    ARE YOU, beloved 21st century worshipers of the Lord Jesus Christ, not also His saints?

    and we have believed,
    and have come to know, that you are the Holy One [hagios] of God.”

    Gospel of John 6:69 ESV – Simon Peter to the Lord Jesus

    Yes, the women of Corinth and of your 21st century church could be of the Holy Ones - saints - of God; so don't be offended by what the Apostle Paul next instructs the saints by the Spirit - even if God formed you as a woman. 

    If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

    1 Corinthians 14:35 ESV

    Paul then proceeds to instruct ‘the brothers’ in those issues the apostle has already addressed, prophesies and spiritual gifts (essentially reiterating ‘listen to me about these things).

    And the Apostle Paul’s conclusion to this large section of his letter to the Corinthian saints

    who are of course free from the Law (as servants of God, Christ and each other) —

    But let all things be done properly and with order.

    1 Corinthians 14:40 BLB


    And since Paul's epistle (like any letter) lacks chapters, what does the Apostle NEXT remind the Corinthians -- the saints of Christ's Church? 

    About THE RESURRECTION.

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  • From Palm Sunday to Pentecost

    From Palm Sunday to Pentecost

    No, your not looking at the wrong picture. 

    NEXT – Pentecost 2025 of the Common Era

    Doesn't Holy Week from Palm Sunday to EASTER look about the same every year? 

    I wrote a SERIES for Lent last year too — which of course culminated with Easter Sunday.

    Check it out (from Easter, 2024) if you'd like. 
    SON-MAN RISEN!

    And my LATEST POSTS in 2025 CE reflect an OLD TESTEMENT approach to LENT, also concluding with a look at Resurrection Sunday.

    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. JOHN 3:16 green man

    Our focus for EASTER 2025 CE has been from the Gospel of John (just before your familiar memorized verse).

    Gospel of John 3:14 ESV

    But what did JESUS do next?

    IF you have READ my 2025 CE EASTER post (above), then you may realize that the GOSPEL — in John’s case — has been preached for a number of years.

    ~ A.D. 85 – the Gospel of APOSTLE JOHN

    Do the math and you will easily see that since Christ rose from death sometime around AD 30-33 according to most historical estimates, then EASTER had been celebrated by saints of The Way for OVER 50 YEARS by the time the Apostle recorded:

    • his Gospel,
    • three epistles to the Church and
    • the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John!
      • – with specific mention of the witness of saints of seven churches as examples to us.

    To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs,

    appearing to them over a period of forty days

    and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God.

    Acts of the Apostles 1:3 NASB95

    φανερόω – JESUS Manifested

    After this, Jesus revealed himself again to his disciples by the Sea of Tiberias. He revealed himself in this way:

    .. This was now the third time Jesus appeared to the disciples after he was raised from the dead.

    Gospel of John 21:1 ,14 CSB

    The Apostle Peter writes:

    He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was revealed in these last times for you.

    1 Peter 1:20 CSB

    And last of all — as to the untimely birth — he appeared also to me, writes the Apostle Paul.

    1 Corinthians 15:8 YLT

    • JESUS’ historical crucifixion on a Roman cross is an undisputable fact.
    • Christ’s resurrection after three days — in His recognizable resurrection body, with the wounds of the Cross –– and in the very Spirit of the same JESUS of Nazareth the Son of Man known personally to hundreds of disciples and thousands of first century witnesses — is true and verifiable fact REJECTED by those who also deny the One Living God of all creation and all of its created.

    “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world,

    ..but anyone who does not believe is already condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

    Gospel of John 17a,18b CSB


    “Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.

    Gospel of John 3:14-15 CSB

    Lifted up + Earthly things you do not believe


    Father, Son and Pentecost

    John closes his proclamation and witness of Apostolic Good News:

    JESUS also said,

    “..The one who has seen me has seen the Father. 

    AND as you know from our 2025 Easter post, the Lord challenged Nicodemus:

    “God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in Spirit and in truth.”


    Now through the testimony of both Peter and John recorded by Luke in Acts of the Apostles we will glance at the Trinity and introduction of the Spirit on Pentecost ~AD 33.


    40 days, and then Pentecost

    And while they were gathered together, He commanded them: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift the Father promised, which you have heard Me discuss. For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.

    .. they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight.

    [Two angels instructed the Eleven]

    ..” This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into heaven.”

    Excerpt from ACTS of the Apostles 1 BSB

    Are you who do not believe intimidated by that? 

    Perhaps you should believe in the Lord Christ Jesus, who will return finally for the Judgment.

    The Holy Spirit at Pentecost

    The following from Bible Hub Book Summary of ACTS 2: 

    Please consider its Gospel application in your own brief mortal life. - RH

    Acts 2 is a powerful chapter that introduces the Holy Spirit’s dynamic presence in the lives of believers and demonstrates the transformation it brings. The followers of Jesus move from being a fearful, waiting group to a bold, active community witnessing for Christ. The chapter underscores the compelling power of the Gospel message and the magnetic draw of a loving, unified, and Spirit-led community. This chapter serves as a timeless model for the Church, inspiring us to be led by the Spirit, devoted to God’s Word, committed to fellowship, and actively involved in meeting the needs of those around us.

    On the Day of Pentecost, the disciples are together when a sound like a violent wind fills the house, and they see what seems to be tongues of fire that separate and rest on each of them. Filled with the Holy Spirit, they start to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enables them. A diverse crowd gathers, bewildered because each person hears their native language spoken. Some are amazed and wonder what it means, while others mock the disciples, suggesting they are drunk.

    https://biblehub.com/bsb/acts/2.htm


    πεντηκοστή – Pentecost = “the fiftieth day”

    WE love festivals, don’t we? Pentecost was another festival that brought the Jews to Jerusalem a little over a month after the Passover feast.

    more... 
    • ~ AD 33

    When the day of Pentecost had arrived, they were all together in one place.

    ACTS of the Apostles 2:1 CSB

    • ~ AD 55

    Paul writes to the Corinthians,

    “But I will stay in Ephesus until Pentecost,

    • ~ AD 57

    For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus to avoid spending time in the province of Asia, because he was hurrying to be in Jerusalem, if possible, for the day of Pentecost.

    Acts of the Apostles 20:16 CSB

    The CHURCHES and their saints in every place have become dear to the Apostles — including Paul.

    But for those early years after the RESURRECTION of the Lord Jesus Christ +++ Pentecost continued to provide evidence and witness of the Trinity – God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

    Twenty years after Christ’s ascension now — twenty years after the first signs of the Holy Spirit in Jerusalem on Pentecost — and during the remaining years of the mortal lives of the Apostles PENTECOST provided the saints of The Way a gospel witness of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ — who will come again in GLORY at the last Day.


    What’s NEXT in our witness to the world in 2025 CE?

    • Lord-willing, in MAY 2025 TalkofJESUS series from Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians will continue.
      • (We will not continue in Paul’s second letter.)
    • 2025 CE Summer TOPICAL SERIES to be announced
    • August 2025 – some personal updates from Roger Harned, our author and moderator of TalkofJESUS.com
    • AND, of course, more DOCTRINE for your discernment
      • & SCRIPTURE as written with secure links to our sources from better theologians than me.

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