Tag: Church

  • Church Divided / Empire Fallen 2

    Church Divided / Empire Fallen 2

    Church History before King James

    In part 1 we examined the history of the Bible and specifically how it relates to King James and pre-colonial America. Next we will go back to a time when the church divided into various branches.

    Take a look at the graphic from the early church to the Reformation and you will see a continual division of the Church.

    History 100 Quiz – Answer Key

    How did you do on the three question pop-quiz from church history?

    1. Why did the British Empire ban Roger Williams from its colony August 8, 1635 AD?
    2. What does the date of 24 July, 1567 have to do with the Bible?
    3. And in 1525-26, what did William Tyndale do to oppose Papal authority that led to impact the Colonies and all the British Empire?

    The answers found within the context of the original post:

    1. Roger Williams was sentenced to banishment by the British colony of Massachusetts for his differing religious views. In exile he founded Rhode Island on principles of freedom of conscience.
    2. Prince James became King of Scotland on 24 July, 1567, at the age of 13 months, after his mother Mary, Queen of Scots was forced to abdicate… When Elizabeth I died childless, James inherited the throne.
    3. William Tyndale’s New Testament, 1525-26, was defiance of protest against Papal authority. It was printed in Germany, where Martin Luther’s New Testament was first printed in 1529. One risked death by burning if caught in mere possession of Tyndale’s forbidden books.

    Scriptures

    Once again this particular series is NOT scriptural exposition, but focused on the Church itself. Most colonists from England came to America with their King James Bible and many to escape the absolute religious oppression imposed on them by their local church authorities. Others had brought an earlier Tyndale Bible, while German Language Bibles of Luther also crossed the Atlantic.

    page of John 1 from Tyndale English Bible
    Tyndale Bible

    Empires Fallen

    My linked post (part 2), originally from August 9, 2013, contains many secure links to events in pre-colonial church history which may interest you. All links open in another tab so that you may study the event or term and continue in my talkofJesus.com post.

    Historical Dates:

    Part II History QuizWhat event or timeline do these dates describe?

    • AD 753 – AD 1806
    • 9 August, in the year of our Lord 1378
    • 1378 A.D to 1417 A.D.
    • AD 1453

    Food for thought

    “Monarchy is the greatest thing on earth. Kings are rightly called gods since just like God they have power of life and death over all their subjects in all things. They are accountable to God only … so it is a crime for anyone to argue about what a king can do.”

    King James of England

    If people were able to read the Bible in their own tongue, the church’s income and power would crumble.

    Commentary on William Tyndale’s English language Bible

    The Reformers & Church History

    See link below.

    Biographical Sketches of the Translators & Reformers

    BlueletterBible.org
    Summer Reruns! with picture of sun wearing sunglasses
    Summer 2021 AD {Scriptural} Reruns
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    To be continued...
  • Church Divided / Empire Fallen 1

    Church Divided / Empire Fallen 1

    History 100: of Bibles & Empires – Introduction

    No man on earth has ever completely understood history except the Son of Man, Christ Jesus. You don’t and I certainly do not know near enough about the history of the Bible and history attested to by the Bible. We know very little of Empires other than a few. And what do you understand about centuries of church history?

    With History in mind:

    So in this brief 3-part series we take a prerequisite look at some events from the timeline of history. More specifically we look the beginnings of the English Bible, the fall of the Roman Catholic church and other historical issues.

    Note that I have reversed my original title of eight years ago with the intention of bringing us into focus on Church Doctrine. - RH

    History QUIZ:

    ANSWERS found in linked post.
    1. Why did the British Empire ban Roger Williams from its colony August 8, 1635 AD?
    2. What does the date of 24 July, 1567 have to do with the Bible?
    3. And in 1525-26, what did William Tyndale do to oppose Papal authority that led to impact the Colonies and all the British Empire?

    Scriptures

    and the Spirit of God moved above the face of the waters Genesis 1:26 picture of sun over clouds

    .. And the earth was without form, and void…

    Genesis 1:2a KJV

    Original talkofJesus.com Post

    From August 8-10, 2013 – Topics: Empires, Church & Bible History
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    Summer 2021 AD {Scriptural} Reruns
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  • God’s Personal Love -5- for flickering flames of Faith

    God’s Personal Love -5- for flickering flames of Faith

    I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches.

    Revelation 1:11 NKJV

    Golden Lampstands with flames from flickering faith

    Darkness dominates a cold place behind the veil of the Holy of Holies – an unseen flickering faith of worshipers of the LORD.

    The Temple had been Jerusalem’s replica of a former glory now departed – a white-washed façade of cleansing since the broken covenant of its faithless shepherds.

    Then like a Light in the darkness their Messiah unexpectedly appears among God’s chosen. And His Sacrifice substitutes as the Passover lamb — the Lamb of forgiveness which takes away the sins of the world.

    A flickering flame of hope is now the shining star of David as Scripture had proclaimed. And Jesus returns once more in Body and Spirit — in victory over death!

    The Light of Life stands within the Tabernacle of this world and offers Himself as its Sacrifice.

    The Son now rules from above in the Temple of Glory!

    • The Prophets told of His coming.
    • Jesus’ Disciples preached His Gospel of Light.
    • And now His Church must shine as a brief candle lifted into the throne room of Christ’s glory.

    Revelation to Churches with Flickering Faith

    Even prior to the end of the first century A.D. faith in the Church flickered in the winds of the world. And the love of the saints sometimes extinguished in false gospels of darkness.

    As it was before the incarnation of Christ Jesus, so it was after the Lord’s resurrection and ascension.

    Yet a risen Christ Jesus lifts the dead from their graves.

    And discouraged disciples of these last days stand as brief candles in the darkness looking upon the eternal Light of glory.

    a Vision from the Lord

    While the world stumbles in the darkness of sin, a Personal love of God Almighty shines into the darkness (as the Prophet Isaiah had said).

    And the people will be oppressed,
    Each one by another, and each one by his neighbor;
    The youth will assault the elder,
    And the contemptible person will assault the one honored.

    Isaiah 3:5

    “Make the hearts of this people insensitive,
    Their ears dull,
    And their eyes blind,
    So that they will not see with their eyes,
    Hear with their ears,
    Understand with their hearts,
    And return and be healed.”

    Isaiah 6:10

    Exhortation from Peter

    After the Lord’s resurrection and ascension the Apostles all proclaim His death, resurrection and returning again. He is the Light of the world, they preach in their letters to a growing Church as every Apostle exhorts the faithful.

    Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ,
    To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

    Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord,

    Sound familiar?

    James and Jude, brothers of Jesus also write similar loving greetings to the church in their letters.

    Before we continue in Christ’s revelation to John, hear just a bit more of what the Apostle Simon, ‘the rock’ on which Jesus promised to build His Church had to say in his second letter:.

    Peter to the church as the Apostles death is near

    .. For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty..

    And like Isaiah and the Prophets Peter assures the church:

    And so we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts.

    Message to the Seven Churches

    Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me. And after turning I saw seven golden lampstands..

    the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John 1:12 NASB20

    7 Exhortations for all churches

    We all need a true light in this place of darkness, don’t we?

    Revelation!

    His face like the sun shining in its strength..

    in the midst of seven golden lampstands..

    His voice as the sound of many waters..

    and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength.

    Revelation excerpts 1:16,12,15,16

    As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

    Revelation 1:20 NASB

    The One who holds the seven stars in His right hand, the One who walks among the seven golden lampstands, says this:

    7 Candles of Flickering Faith

    .. and I will remove your lampstand from its place—unless you repent. – the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John 2:5b

    1-Ephesus

    • “I know all the things you do. I have seen your hard work and your patient endurance. I know you don’t tolerate evil people..

    But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. [agape]

    Revelation 2:4 NASB20

    Remember therefore from where you have fallen;

    • repent,
    • and do the works you did at first.

    If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.

    2- Smyrna

    • ‘I know your tribulation [thlipsis – a pressing, pressing together, pressure, oppression, affliction, tribulation, distress, straits]
    • and your poverty (but you are rich)
    • I know the blasphemy of those opposing you. Strong’s G988 – blasphēmia
    • Do not fear what you are about to suffer.

    Prove yourself faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.

    Revelation 2:10c

    3-Pergamum

    • “I know that you live in the city where Satan has his throne,
    • and you hold firmly to My name,
    • But I have a few things against you,
      • Remember:
        • each ‘Church’ is plural,
        • while every single ‘saint’ is accountable to Christ
    • you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam,
      • Doctrine is more than your ‘church vision’ taught, but not applied
      • Teaching among claimants of Christ may mislead others.
    • who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel..
    • In a similar way, you have some Nicolaitans among you who follow the same teaching.
      • (Nicolaitans, that is “destruction of people” in your gathering, are those who listen to your teaching (preaching or doctrine) yet are easily tempted to follow false teachings they prefer.)
      • (Note: the root name, nikolaos, may refer to a proselyte of Antioch and one of the seven deacons of the church at Jerusalem. His name Νικόλαος means “victor of the people.”)
      • Christ Jesus is our ONLY teaching, for He alone is victorious over death. And from the Throne of glory Jesus warns the church:
    • Therefore repent; or else I am coming to you quickly,
    • and I will wage war against them with the sword of My mouth..

    4- Sardis

    • “‘I know your works. You have [a name] the reputation of being alive,
    • {go ahead, substitute Your Church Name, here & see how you receive Christ’s admonition.}
    • but you are dead.
    • Wake up,
    • strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die;
      • {Some works yet to do in your church?}
    • for I have not found your deeds completed in the sight of My God.
      • {My fellow saint, our Lord Jesus says we have incomplete deeds yet to do.}
    • Go back to what you heard and believed at first; hold to it firmly.
    • Repent and turn to me again.
    • If you don’t wake up, I will come to you suddenly..
      • The general exhortation is for all, yet some not in need of repentance Christ encourages specifically.
    • You have a few names even in Sardis .. [who] shall walk with Me in white [unsoiled garments], for they are worthy.

    The one who overcomes will be clothed the same way, in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

    Revelation 3:5 NASB

    5- Philadelphia

    φιλάδελφος (root word) – From φίλος (G5384) and ἀδελφός (G80) – ‘friend’ & ‘brother’

    BlueletterBible.org

    “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:

    Revelation 3:7a
    – note the definition of angel of the church could include any of its ‘messengers,’ as its ‘saints‘ – a most holy thing – could include any of its faithful.

    He who is holy, who is true, who has the key of David, who opens and no one will shut, and who shuts and no one opens, says this:

    The Revelation [3:7b NASB] of Jesus Christ to John – to the messenger of the church in Philadelphia
    • “I know your works.
    • See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it;
      • for you have a little strength,
      • have kept My word,
      • and have not denied My name.
    • Behold, I will make those.. who say that they are [ __ ]
      • Jesus calls them worshipers of Satan as the Lord refers to some Jews, BUT
      • could HE fill in the [ __ ] with ‘christians’ who gather in the church of the world?
    • and are not, but lie—
    • I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
      • The Lord Jesus assures His friends and brothers in Philadelphia.
    • Because you have kept My command to persevere,
    • I also will keep you from the hour of trial
      • (Christ’s covenant with the faithful!)
      • which shall come upon the whole world,
      • to test those who dwell on the earth.
    • Behold, I am coming quickly!
    • Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown.
    flickering candle on stand

    Flickering faith transformed into Pillars of Worship

    The one who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore..

    Revelation 3:12 NASB

    .. and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name.

    The one who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’

    Flickering Faith in the winds of the world

    Suppose the letter to you arrives by messenger from Patmos.

    Jesus’ Apostle John still resides there and occasionally Rome allows a letter from him to depart for your Roman-ruled city in a distant province of Asia.

    Your own church community suffers in its own isolation, because most of your neighbors, merchants, fellow workers, Roman government officials and even some fellow worshipers seem caught up in the life of other things in your city.

    NOW, as you gather for worship, a leader of your church reads a letter. (Messengers have previously brought guarded precious Good News from Mark, Luke, Matthew and even John.) You puff up a bit as your pastor begins:

     καὶ τῷ ἀγγέλῳ τῆς ἐν Λαοδικείᾳ ἐκκλησίας γράψον 

    τάδε λέγει ὁ ἀμήν ὁ μάρτυς ὁ πιστὸς καὶ ἀληθινός ἡ ἀρχὴ τῆς κτίσεως τοῦ θεοῦ

    7- Laodicea

    map of the seven churches of revelation

    “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

    The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Origin of the creation of God, says this:

    “‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot!

    Revelation to the saints of the church in Laodicea [3:15 ESV]

    So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of My mouth.

    Revelation 3:16 NASB

    Lukewarm ‘christians’ – saints spit out!

    I could NEVER accuse you of THAT! But this IS JESUS giving final warning to the church.

    • χλιαρός – chliaros From chlio (to warm)

    This is the only time Christ uses it in Scripture, as the last warning to the last of seven churches — (to become warm, liquefy, melt)..

    The Gospel which heated your faith, the cold water of your baptism which refreshed you — these no longer satisfy and Jesus is a Name seldom seen in the places where you dwell.

    Lukewarm – metaphorically, of the condition of a soul wretchedly fluctuating between a torpor —

    from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
     noun A state of mental or physical inactivity or insensibility.
     noun Lethargy; apathy. synonym: lethargy.
     noun The dormant, inactive state of a hibernating or estivating animal.

    and a fervor of love.

    THAYER’S GREEK LEXICON, Electronic Database.
     Copyright © 2002, 2003, 2006, 2011 by Biblesoft, Inc.
     All rights reserved. Used by permission. BibleSoft.com

    Jesus counsels a lukewarm church

    You say,

    • ‘I am rich.
    • I have everything I want.
    • I don’t need a thing!’

    And you don’t realize that you are

    • wretched and
    • miserable and
    • poor and
    • blind and
    • naked.

    I counsel you to buy from Me

    • gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and
    • white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and
    • ointment for your eyes so you will be able to see.
    Have you, dear lukewarm saint, invested your mortal time here in Jesus?

    Dear Claimant of Christ,

    Those whom I love, I rebuke and discipline;

    therefore be zealous and repent.

    The Revelation of Jesus Christ to John 3:19 NASB

    ‘Those whom I love — its phileō here, that familiar affectionate love of a friend —

    1. I reprove [convict, generally with a suggestion of shame of the person convicted, correct or call to account] AND
    2. discipline [see the definition].

    If Jesus is your Lord, if you have ears to hear and eyes to see His love — then receive Christ’s correction and discipline while your candle yet flickers with so little faith.

    Jesus standing at a door knocking

    “Look! I stand at the door and knock.

    If you hear my voice and open the door, I will come in, and we will share a meal together as friends.

    Those who are victorious will sit with me on my throne,

    just as I was victorious and sat with my Father on his throne.

    The Revelation of Jesus 3:20-21 NLT

    AND for the 21st c. church..

    “Anyone with ears to hear ..

    must listen to the Spirit and

    understand what he is saying to the churches.”

    Revelation 3:22 NLT

    ANYONE, my fellow saint of this 21st c. A.D., anyone with ears to hear Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

    NOT only seven churches — not some other churchnot even a flickering excuse of a saint in your own church. YOU, dear Christian — you with ears to hear what JESUS is saying to you and to His Church.

    Amen.