Tag: Hinduism

  • Denominations / Why can’t we all just get along?

    Denominations / Why can’t we all just get along?

    It’s a great question isn’t it? And from this street-level philosopher we might extrapolate questions like: “Why can’t all the church just get along?” or “Why can’t churches of ALL denominations just get along?” or “Shouldn’t OUR church teach tolerance of all poor street philosophers and inclusively preach THEIR philosophies from every religion?”

    THEIR Two-faced ‘Tolerance

    “Why can’t all the church just get along?”

    Because we are ALL sinners. WE accuse the brethren of OTHER denominations while lacking discernment of our own fledgling flock of philosophers.

    And this is NO different for the philosophers who deceivingly call THEMSELVES a ‘church.’

    Returning to close examination of the PLANK in OUR own ‘evangelical christian’ eye, let’s review the theological discernment shared in our previous two Saturday Posts:

    Christology and Theology may be at odds with prevailing social philosophy which USES a loose interpretation of the Bible to fill the house with non-committal christians.

    The shift from ‘accepting the existence of different views’ to ‘acceptance of different views’ .. is subtle in form, but massive in substance. To accept that a different or opposing position exists is one thing; to accept the position itself means that one is no longer opposing it.

    D.A. Carson, The Intolerance of Tolerance 

    Something’s wrong with our church!

    (So why not RECALL it & fix it?) QUESTION what OUR church teaches AND build it back to be all-inclusive and tolerant.

    In deconstruction everything is a SOCIAL construction, including the church.

    Darrell Harrison – Just Thinking podcast

    As a watchman on the wall Harrison points to the strategy of deconstructionist everythingologist preachers of the false gospel:

    Once WE accept the philosophy that the CHURCH is a SOCIALLY constructed system, NOT a divinely ordained institution that originated in the mind of God..

    • THEN the church falls into disbelief.
    • CONSEQUENTLY these fledgling lambs of the faith will be led to the slaughter.

    Deconstructionists

    • ASSUME a HUMAN faith which WE need to fix.
    • YET try to follow the illogic of philosophers who preach that:
      • ALL of these DENOMINATIONS ‘can just get along.
    Something's wrong with our church! church denominations

    Denominations / Divide and Conquer

    Why the attack on Christians?

    • Christians claim the LARGEST RELIGION in the world! [< 2 BILLION souls]
      • Worldwide about three out of every ten people are Christians.
        • In the U.S. about three out of four people claim Christianity as their faith (mostly Protestant) &
        • In Mexico and Brazil about 9 out of 10 claim Christianity (mostly Roman Catholic)
      • Roman Catholics are the largest denomination with about one billion communicants worldwide.
      • 12% of the world population claim Orthodox Christian denominations with about 40% of the 260 million living in officially atheistic Russia.
      • ~800 MILLION Protestant Christians [37% of the world population] can be divided into < 40,000 denominations

    Major Monotheistic Religions

    Why can’t believers in the One God just get along?

    • Islam claims almost 2 billion worshipers of Mohammed
      • Sunni Islam is the largest denomination with about <85% or about 1.6 billion followers
      • Shi’ism or Shia Islam is the second-largest Muslim denomination and divided into additional sub-denominations.
      • SEE THEIR intolerance toward OTHER religions below.
    • Judaism, the original Abrahamic faith prior to Jesus Christ (1st c. A.D.) and Muhammed (7th c. A.D.), retains just a remnant of the world’s population with >15 MILLION worshipers, further divided into several religious schools of thought, culture and worship.
    lines of division of Christianity chart
    Church Divided

    Catholic ‘kata-holos’ universal

    • IF Catholic = Universal, how then can ‘christians‘ call BOTH the Roman Catholic and the Orthodox a ‘Christian Church?’
      • Did the fall of Rome or any empire of the world separate Christians from Christ?
    • Yet IF Universal = Catholic + EVERYBODY ELSE; the PHILOSOPHER then becomes the Pope with no clothes, as well as a stone ‘thinker’ with failed logic.
      • The religion of the Universal ‘Church’ is NO religion except ALL religions.
    • WHY can’t YOU Christians and non-Christians all just get along?
      • The Agnostic acknowledges that GOD IS; but like so many other truths, THEY cannot prove it.
    • On the other face of the religion of philosophy, an A-theist by definition professes a religion AGAINST the god of their philosophy.
      • ANY reasonably constructed religion accepted except the intolerance of Christians!
    WE will RECONSTRUCT from OUR common ground.

    Let’s invite the Pope to confess OUR sins against indigenous Americans of the past. He could wear a chief’s bonnet in place of his Roman MITRE. (Just instruct his holiness NOT to mention Jesus Christ.) He could help save OUR environment.

    AND cultural Jews – they’re like us, so we can study their original faith. (Just don’t mention that Jesus called some of them whitewashed tombs or Christian claims that JESUS and the Father are ONE, or many other intolerant things JESUS said.)

    Of course we have common ground with our Muslim brothers. (Maybe we can get them to give women some rights if we accept some of their very good examples of regular faith.) WE even know some at work (and they are all hard workers) who have even accepted Christians into THEIR Islamic faith and married into THEIR Muslim family.

    coexist and tolerance = apostasy

    Religion is a dirty word in the 21st century public square and an evangelical Christian the most offensive icon of intolerance to be mocked in social media.

    Roger@TalkofJESUS.com

    Other Faiths & Many Truths (not to mention gods‘)

    Let’s talk about culture. (WE can create it better.)

    • The CURRENT WORLD POPULATION includes nearly 8 BILLION human souls.
    • There are 18.6 million Asian Americans living in the US, making up 6% of the US population
      • Nearly 400 million Christians live in Asia (5 regions), while just 230 million Christians live in N. America.
    • China has a population of 1.4 BILLION souls and although officially the PEOPLE are ATHEISTS, more Christians evangelize their faith in China than in much of the U.S.
      • Unofficially, Chinese folk religions comprise ~22% of the population, Buddhists ~14%, Christians about 5% (~74 MILLION disciples of Christ) PLUS 52% of the Chinese population are “unaffiliated” with ANY religion [probably safest even for many Christians]
        • (Could the intolerance of evangelical Christians in America become the officialfreedom FROM religion’ in the U.S.?)
      • Open Doors USA estimates the number of Christians in China to be 96,700,000
    • #India, a mostly English-speaking country [in addition to Hindi] increasingly embraces Hinduism
      • with 1.25 BILLION believers worldwide.
      • A Pew research study comparing religions shows a growing intolerance of ‘minority monotheistic religions’ such as Islam & Christianity.
      • The persecution of Christians in India is intensifying as Hindu extremists aim to cleanse the country of their presence and influence. Open Doors ranks the level of persecution as comparable to that of Iran and India’s Islamist neighbors of Pakistan & Afghanistan.
    Intolerant Karma

    Not only do a majority of Hindus in India (77%) believe in karma, but an identical percentage of Muslims do, too.

    A third of Christians in India (32%) – together with 81% of Hindus – say they believe in the purifying power of the Ganges River, a central belief in Hinduism.

    Source: PEW RESEARCH CENTER

    YET note intolerance of many surveyed in 2019-2020 in India:

    • ..members of India’s major religious communities often don’t feel they have much in common with one another.
    • Many Indians, across a range of religious groups, say it is very important to stop people in their community from marrying into other religious groups.
      • Roughly two-thirds of Hindus in India want to prevent interreligious marriages of Hindu women (67%) or Hindu men (65%).
      • Even larger shares of Muslims feel similarly: 80% say it is very important to stop Muslim women from marrying outside their religion, and 76% say it is very important to stop Muslim men from doing so.
    Who is my neighbor?

    Denominations of Neighborhoods

    It’s NOT just the Church which divides itself, but socially constructed systems of cities, communities, clubs, political parties, schools, work.. and yes, shunned minorities (like Christians) NOT tolerated by the majority.

    To further quote the PEW study:

    Indians, then, simultaneously express enthusiasm for religious tolerance and a consistent preference for keeping their religious communities in segregated spheres – they live together separately. These two sentiments may seem paradoxical, but for many Indians they are not.

    The study goes on to mention the mythical ‘melting pot’ approach of ‘other’ countries. NO forced integration there, just two-faced tolerance of paradoxical convenience.

    WHY can’t WE all just get along?

    Integration of culture (or religion) risks ruining the unique values of individuals, as well as trespassing upon any inviolable Truth part and parcel of those individuals who cling to our worship of the Lord our God and Jesus Christ.

    IF our evangelical Christian denomination is NOT different from the religions of the world, the philosophers of humanism, the teachings of the false prophets or the inclusiveness of all the idols which are NOT God, THEN WHY would any soul from another culture come to the community of faith in CHRIST JESUS or fellowship of love and worship of God by grace?

    IF our GOSPEL of eternal life in the Lord Jesus Christ promised in Scripture is ONLY available to those who will repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, WHY would a denomination or church tolerate ANY teaching which might lead many lost sheep into the dark deceptions of death’s doctrines?


    so that the name of God and our doctrine will not be slandered.

    1 Timothy 6 – Instructions to Those Who Serve

    If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself. 
    - I Timothy 6:3-6 New King James Version 
    
    

    So withdraw yourself from such as cannot tolerate OUR intolerance FOR refusing to once again crucify Christ.

  • Liar, liar, pants on fire

    Liar, liar, pants on fire

    Do you recall that kid’s expression?

    I heard it from my friends when caught in a lie.

    Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire

    It’s not a biblical quote, however the Bible continually teaches us the value of truth and the consequence of lies.  God takes truth very seriously.

    “The Liar.” a poem by William Blake from about 200 years ago is probably the source of the expression. Jesus had to deal with liars even in the Temple 2000 years ago. (We’ll get to that shortly.) And about 3000 years ago the Proverbs of the Bible addressed lies as wickedness in relationships.

    Proverbs 17:4 An evildoer listens to wicked lips,

    and a liar gives ear to a mischievous tongue.

    Wickedness, mischief, speaking evil – all connected.

    We owe our souls to the master of lies when we are unwilling to face the truth of God.  We tell lies first to our SELF – lies from Satan. Then we lie to others to cover our evil tracks.

    Lies poison our relationships with others.  Liars willingly listen to other liars, accepting lies as truth.

    Why would a ‘friend,’ a family member or a loved one lie for you?   What truth visible to God would they hide?

    Consider the evil motives of a liar:

    “If someone is willing to lie for you, they are also willing to lie to you.

    Men with miserable lives will even die for a lie they willingly believe — (reward of evil: virgins for them in heaven). These same religious leaders who cover women from head to toe on earth will lead their fellow sinners to death for the lie of a false prophet.

    Religious leaders lead followers toward worship of a virgin while claiming chastity to God and hiding unrighteousness with a lie for a friend. Church Bishops have even built homes for mistresses and lovers even in medieval times.

    Wickedness, built on lies – even to the highest levels of religious leadership at times and in all faiths over the millenia.

    Jesus had to confront this in the Pharisees of the Temple – evil and wicked men with motives to hold onto their power and evil even in face of opposing God. They brought a woman caught in adultery to Jesus to test him.  They did not bring the man to stone. (Perhaps he was a religious leader.)

    Then the Pharisees accused Jesus of being born out of a relationship of unrighteousness, in essence saying: “Your mother was no virgin.”

    Of course the lie in this is not the issue. The point is Who they confront with all of their lies to hold onto their power:

    Jesus IS Son of Man, Son of God – Jesus IS truth.

    Part of the Talmud is a lie. The Book of Mormon is a lie. The Bible of the Jehovah Witness is a lie (full of incomplete and deliberately mistranslated Scripture). And of course the writings of the false prophet of Arabia are a lie.

    The atheist is both a liar and a contradiction. How can you be ‘against’ a God you do not believe in? Yet justification of SELF and the evil without accountability require much effort and energy of the atheist, the agnostic, and worshipers of creation in place of the Creator. NO God = NO hell (the same false lie and false hope of the idolatrous religions: Hinduism, Buddhism and others).

    Again from Proverbs – the caution from the Bible:

    Proverbs 30:5-6 Every word of God proves true;
    he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.

    Do not add to his words,
    lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.

    To be clear (for those who refuse to listen to God’s truth), definition  for ‘rebuke’ from the Hebrew word:

    yakach  [“He will reprove” KJV] – to prove, decide, judge, rebuke, reprove, correct, be right

    God will judge your lie.  Consider the description of Hell, liar.

    John 8:

    23 He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”

    25 So they said to him, “Who are you?”

    Jesus said to them,“Just what I have been telling you from the beginning…

    The Truth Will Set You Free

    31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

    You Are of Your Father the Devil

    44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me…

    Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire

    Are you so bold as to stand up to the liars of this world for the Truth?

    Proverbs 8:

    6 Hear, for I will speak noble things,
    and from my lips will come what is right,
    7 for my mouth will utter truth;
    wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
    8 All the words of my mouth are righteous;
    there is nothing twisted or crooked in them.
    9 They are all straight to him who understands,
    and right to those who find knowledge.

    Jeremiah 5:3

    O LORD, do not your eyes look for truth?
    You have struck them down,
    but they felt no anguish;
    you have consumed them,
    but they refused to take correction.
    They have made their faces harder than rock;
    they have refused to repent.

    John 14;

    I Am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life

    14 “Let not your hearts be troubled.

    Believe in God; believe also in me. 2 In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. 4 And you know the way to where I am going.”

    … “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?”

    6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.