Tag: Nicene Creed

  • Jesus Christ Lord – 3 Christ of the Christian Church

    Jesus Christ Lord – 3 Christ of the Christian Church

    Christians of the early Church proclaimed Jesus Christ Lord confessing, “JESUS is Lord.”

    • What is your relationship to the Son of God and Son of Man?

    Part 1 UPDATED 25 September 2024 CE

    Previously I pointed out thoughtful teaching QUESTIONS about GOD from the Westminster Shorter Catechism.

    Roles and Relationships of JESUS

    In Part 2 we read about Jesus Christ from the Nicene Creed.

    “.. of one substance with the Father,..”

    JESUS relates to mankind in roles summarized as King, Prophet and Priest; but none is more foundational than Christ of God.

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    the Trinity of the LORD

    Church and Biblical teaching are both clear and mysterious in describing GOD’s ROLES of relationship within HIMSELF, that is:

    • FATHER to the SON
    • SON to the SPIRIT
    • Holy Spirit
      • to the Father
      • and to the Son

    Some Christians know and experience a personal relationship to THE ONE GOD. The HOLY SPIRIT speaks to the heart [spirit ] of a uniquely created man or woman, a mortal made of flesh and blood.

    Church Doctrine (teaching)

    In Part 3 of this doctrinal post about the one LORD JESUS CHRIST we will look at scriptural teaching concerning CHRIST from historic catechisms of the Church AND most foundationally, from God’s word in the BIBLE.

    Catechisms provide studied ANSWERS to student QUESTIONS

    Like ANY learning, the Questions and Answers of a catechism we study and memorize as students seeking a deeper understanding of God.

    Doctrine-based QUESTIONS of Christology

    • 21. Who is the redeemer of God’s elect?
      • The only redeemer of God’s elect is the Lord Jesus Christ, who, being the eternal Son of God, became man, and so was, and continueth to be, God and man in two distinct natures, and one person, forever.
    • 23. What offices doth Christ execute as our redeemer?
      • Christ, as our redeemer, executeth the offices of a prophet, of a priest, and of a king, both in His estate of humiliation and exaltation.
    • *24. How doth Christ execute the office of a prophet?
      • *
    • *25. How doth Christ execute the office of a priest?
      • *
    • *26. How doth Christ execute the office of a king?
      • *READ the Westminster Catechism [A.D. 1647] for ANSWERS to these and more Questions about God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
    If you also wonder about the Holy Spirit, time does not allow further study today.

    What does the Church teach? (Church Doctrine)

    Today we’ll study the roles of JESUS’ personal relationship with YOU, with me and with all followers of the Lord.

    Let's begin with a review from the NICENE CREED with its EARLY UNIVERSAL (Catholic) agreement as to the Person and Roles of Christ and God.

    THE CREED OF NICAEA – AGREED AT THE COUNCIL IN 325

    Until the early 20th century, it was universally assumed that the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed (the more accurate term) was an enlarged version of the Creed of Nicaea, which was promulgated at the Council of Nicaea (325). It was further assumed that this enlargement had been carried out at the Council of Constantinople (381) with the object of bringing the Creed of Nicaea up to date in regard to heresies about the Incarnation and the Holy Spirit that had arisen since the Council of Nicaea. - source: Britannica

    Who because of us men and because of our salvation came down,

    and became incarnate

    and became man,

    and suffered,

    and rose again on the third day,

    and ascended to the heavens,

    and will come to judge the living and dead,

    And in the Holy Spirit.

    Nicene Creed, a Christian statement of faith that is the only ecumenical creed because it is accepted as authoritative by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, and major Protestant churches. -Britannica


    Offices, Titles, Roles and Relationships of JESUS

    As is my practice, linked DEFINITIONS to clarify.

    Christ our Redeemer

    “As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives,

    And [after] the last He will rise up over the dust of this world.

    Job 19:25 LSB

    Redeemer is a specifically Scriptural reference to a person acting to save a person or people from the hold, control or responsibility of another.

    The Prophet Isaiah points forward to the Holy One of Israel as the redeemer of Israel for the chosen ones of God.

    Lord κύριος

    Jesus asked them, saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?”

    He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:

    ‘The LORD said to my Lord,
    “Sit at My right hand,
    Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’ 
    ?

    Gospel of Matthew 22:41-46 excerpt New King James Version

    22:45  εἰ οὖν Δαβὶδ καλεῖ αὐτὸν κύριον πῶς υἱὸς αὐτοῦ ἐστιν 

    Since David called the Messiah ‘my Lord,’ how can the Messiah be his son?” - NLT

    Offices of our Redeemer

    • the office of a prophet
    • the office of a priest
    • the office of a king

    Prophetfrom נָבָא (H5012) נָבִיא

    Then the LORD came down in the pillar of cloud and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam. And they both went forward. Then He said,

    “Hear now My words:
    If there is a prophet among you,
    I, the LORD, make Myself known to him in a vision;
    I speak to him in a dream.

    Numbers 12:5 NKJV

    New Testament use of prophet from the Greek:
    προφήτηςStrong’s G4396prophētēs

    “But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I say to you, and more than a prophet.

    Gospel of Matthew 11:9 NKJV [7-15 in contest] JESUS, speaking of John, even comparing John to Elijah and citing Scripture from O.T. Prophets.

    • What does the BIBLE teach us about this office of JESUS?

    And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying,

    That a great prophet G4396 is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.

    Gospel of Luke 7:16 KJV [vs 11-17 in context] when JESUS raised a boy to life from his funeral casket

    Priest kōhēnכֹּהֵן

    And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest H3548 of the most high God.

    Genesis 14:18 KJV (first reference to the office of priest in the Bible)

    priest,
    principal officer or chief ruler
    priest-king (Melchizedek, Messiah)
    [6 more]
    Active participle of כָּהַן (H3547)

    Lexicon :: Strong’s H3548 – kōhēn

    The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest H3548 for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

    Psalm 110:4

    לְדָוִד מִזְמוֹר נְאֻם יְהוָה לַאדֹנִי שֵׁב לִימִינִי עַד־אָשִׁית אֹיְבֶיךָ הֲדֹם לְרַגְלֶיךָ׃

    1. priest-king (Melchizedek, Messiah)
    2. pagan priests
    3. priests of Jehovah
    4. Levitical priests
    5. Zadokite priests
    6. Aaronic priests
    7. the high priest
    Priest – ἱερεύς

    just as He says also in another passage,

    “YOU ARE A PRIEST G2409 FOREVER

    ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK.”

    Hebrews 5:7 LSB

    High Priest or Chief Priest – ἀρχιερεύς – archiereus

    Now the main point in what is being said is this: we have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, a minister in the holy places and in the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, not man.

    Hebrews 8:1-2 LSB


    King

    .. for I am a great King, saith the LORD of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen.

    Malachi 1:14b KJV

    king – meleḵ – מֶלֶךְ

    occurs 2,526 times in the Hebrew Bible

    Israel follows YAWWEH as its King of kings and Lord of lords.

    What other people have GOD as its King by their covenant with the LORD?


    king βασιλεύς – basileus
    Strong's Number G935 matches the Greek βασιλεύς (basileus),
    which occurs 118 times in 107 verses in the TR Greek.

    And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING G935 OF THE JEWS.

    Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John

    Outline of Biblical Usage 

    1. leader of the people, prince, commander, lord of the land, king
    probably from G939 (through the notion of a foundation of power); a sovereign (abstractly, relatively, or figuratively):—king.

    JESUS showed POWER on earth, signs and miracles no created man could do except the expected Messiah of GOD !

    The King, as Judeans had hoped, would be more powerful than Herod the Great (who rebuilt the Temple, a civil project still under construction under one of his sons (King Herod). Jerusalem and all the lands and their kings were subject to ROME and its Caesars.

    “Hosanna,

    Ὡσαννά εὐλογημένος ὁ βασιλεὺς Ἰσραήλ

    hōsanna eulogeō ho basileus israēl

    “.. Blessed [is] the King of Israel..

    John 12:13c

    a crowd of people with palm branches processing toward Jerusalem

    Rome’s Governor Pilate would decide a pre-ordained mortal fate of this earthly KING Jesus, a man seemingly powerless as Jerusalem’s King Herod and his appointed priests of the Judean Temple.

    drawing of Herod's Temple
    The Apostles Peter and John also preached Christ crucified and risen with signs from God. ACTS 3-4

    JESUS, according to God’s Word

    Wouldn't HOLY SCRIPTURE; written, God-breathed words of the BIBLE (faithfully translated); provide the best, true guidance of how Christian should proclaim JESUS?

    Consider how the New Testament speaks about Jesus - source
    • “Jesus” occurs 980 times in 940 verses in the LSB.
    • 942 times in the KING JAMES VERSION
    • 1000+ times in translations substituting ‘Jesus‘ for prepositions such as ‘He.’

    • Jesus” AND “prophet” occurs in 5 verses in ‘The Gospels” in the LSB.
      • and JESUS never uses it Himself as a title, only confirming this office.
    • Jesus” AND “priest” occurs 30 times in 14 verses in the LSB.
    • He is never addressed as a ‘Priest,’ but the letter of HEBREWS and other Scripture makes clear that JESUS is both Priest and Sacrifice.

    Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us take hold of our confession.

    For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things like we are, yet without sin.

    Hebrews 4:14-15 LSB

    • Jesus” AND “king” occurs 18 times in 8 verses in the LSB
    • Jesus never refers to Himself as King yet acknowledges the recognition of Him by others.

    So Jesus, knowing that they were going to come and take Him by force to make Him king G935, withdrew again to the mountain by Himself alone.

    Gospel of John 6:15 LSB – G035 – basileus

    The Lord Christ Jesus

    Jesus” AND “Lord” occurs 379 times in 179 verses in the KJV

    • The Twelve Apostles and others frequently address the man Jesus as, “Lord.”
    • Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou Son of David. – Matthew 20:30b
    • When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus’ knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord. – Luke 5:8

    And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

    Gospel of Luke 24:23 KJV – the women at the tomb of Jesus on Resurrection Sunday

    Easter or Resurrection Sunday is the day the tomb of Jesus is found empty and when the risen Messiah appears risen after His crucifixion on a Corss
    HE IS RISEN!

    Jesus the Christ of GOD

    • The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. – Matthew 1:1
    • And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. – Matthew 1:16
    • And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. – Matthew 16:16
    • For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. – Matthew 24:5
    • Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. – Matthew 27:22
    • Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, – Romans 1:1
    • Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.1 Corinthians 1:3 ESV

    He will also strengthen you to the end, so that you will be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    1 Corinthians 1:8 Christian Standard Bible


    “Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.”

    Acts of the Apostles 2:36 Legacy Standard Bible

    ‘.. what should we do?”

    And Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized

    in the name of Jesus Christ

    for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    Acts of the Apostles 2:38 LSB


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  • Jesus Christ 2 the Person and His Roles

    Jesus Christ 2 the Person and His Roles

    Who is this Jesus? Has God sent us the Christ – the anointed Messiah?

    God and The Person of JESUS

    JESUS IS and was and will be.

    Talk of JESUS .com Jesus Christ IS Lord – 1

    JESUS IS God! just as we introduced last time through the beginning in John’s Gospel — “..and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God..”

    “No one has ever yet seen God..”

    John 1:18a Berean Standard Bible

    Begotten, NOT made

    John continues [John 1:18 BLB].

    “.. the only begotten God who is in the bosom G2859 of the Father, He has explained Him.

    Gospel of John 1:18 LSB – Strong’s G2859 – kolpos – ‘the front of the body between the arms

    Look closely at John’s Gospel and understand that GOD IS ONE, yet God is a God of relationship – THREE PERSONS with very personal roles and relationships to created men and women.

    Jesus, himself, confessed:

    “I and the Father are one.”

    John 10:30

    the Personality of JESUS the Son

    • Can you attach a Personality to the Face of God who you cannot see?
    • Will you relate to a PILLAR OF FIRE or the unseen Hand of the whirlwind?

    God the Father of our Lord JESUS Christ reveals from His unseen ever-existence, two Personalities, a loving Father and His only Son, to which created mankind can relate in addition to His unseen Spirit-to-spirit power, Holy and separated from that which He has created.

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    Personality of sons and daughters of man

    per·son·al·i·ty (pûr′sə-nălĭ-tē) DEFINITION

    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition copyright ©2022 by HarperCollins Publishers. All rights reserved.

    Body, mind and spirit born of a woman

    1. The totality of qualities and traits, as of character or behavior, that are peculiar to a specific person.
    2. The collection of distinctive qualities of a person, especially those distinguishing personal characteristics that make one socially appealing
    3. The quality or condition of being a person.

    WE cannot comprehend the TOTALITY of the Personality of JESUS the SON of GOD any more than that of God the FATHER.


    Jesus IS God from God

    The PERSON of JESUS — perhaps a little difficult to understand, but we can relate to HIS relationship as SON of the One Father of all, even Almighty God.

    And as mysterious and illusive is God’s power, so we must hear from what God has said through Scripture about the Person of the Holy Spirit.

    Our basic CHRISTIAN teaching and belief, including study of GOD [theology] as THE TRINITY is outlined in several creeds of the church, including the NICENE CREED written by our Church fathers in A.D. 325.


    JESUS Christ explained by the Nicene Creed

    We believe in one God..

    And in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God,

    Begotten from the Father, only begotten,

    that is, from the substance of the Father,

    God from God, light from light, true God from true God,

    begotten not made,

    of one substance with the Father,

    through Whom all things came into being,

    things in heaven and things on earth…

    THINK about these TEACHINGS of our Church Fathers living just a few generations after the incarnate JESUS, Son of Man.

    Consider in your heart for a moment of our mortal time:
    WHY would GOD show His Face to mankind as a Son, our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST?
    • We cannot be like GOD; but why would GOD want to become as one of us?

    Why not consider JESUS in your heart rather than dismissing the God you cannot see simply in your self-created thoughts?

    JESUS the Person of relationship with our personality

    Hear the theology of our our Church fathers as you embrace the mystery of God in more of the Nicene Creed:

    Jesus Christ..

    Who because of us men and because of our salvation came down, and became incarnate

    [Embodied in human form; personified – American Heritage Dictionary]

    and became man,

    and suffered,

    and rose again on the third day, and ascended to the heavens,

    and will come to judge the living and dead

    JESUS.. the GOD-MAN!

    Returning to the unseen.. in the heavens..

    Christ ascended

    AND WILL COME AGAIN TO JUDGE THE LIVING AND THE DEAD..

    which is of course the ROLE and right of GOD ALMIGHTY, Creator of all men and Maker all things.


    the Role of Christ Jesus

    Even though we cannot fully understand incarnation, that is, GOD becoming a MAN — let’s not confuse the PERSON of JESUS (of one substance with the Father and the Holy Spirit) with the ROLES of JESUS.

    Χριστὸν – Christ

    And He [Jesus] said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”

    And Peter answered and said, “The Christ of God.”

    Gospel of Luke 9:20 LSB [vs. 18-20]

    Then he asked them, “But who do you say I am?”
    Peter replied, “You are the Messiah [Or the Christ. Messiah (a Hebrew term) and Christ (a Greek term) both mean “the anointed one.”] sent from God!”

    Gospel of Luke 9:20 New Living Translation


    MORE about JESUS the Messiah or Christ of God NEXT time, God-willing.

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  • Creeds, Catechisms, Confessions & Christ – What do you believe?

    Creeds, Catechisms, Confessions & Christ – What do you believe?

    Why Creeds, Confessions of Faith & Catechisms still matter to Christians

    Today I invite you to examine what you believe through the eyes of centuries old teachings of the Christian faith. Maybe your worship service includes one of the obligatory Creeds or other Confession of faith ALL must recite. And by repetition these words flow from the tongue trippingly with little or no thought.

    And what is a Catechism, anyway? (Isn’t that some old Catholic thing that no longer applies?)

    Perhaps your contemporary gathering of ‘christians‘ has no need to follow the applause for your inspiring praise band with any such serious declarations (or perhaps even scripture beyond what your Pastor will paraphrase for our brief understanding).

    ALL Christians in past more authoritarian days heard Creeds, Confessions of faith in Christ and even studied these clearly defined Doctrines of the Church.

    I’ll answer your questions and for our mutual understanding of misunderstood terms, we will define each of these mostly affirmations of historical, Biblical Christian faith.

    We will also READ what each of several Creeds and Confessions have to say. You can decide for yourself what you believe – what is relevant to your Christian faith.

    Creeds

    What is a Creed?

    The word creed comes from the Latin word credo, meaning, “I believe.” 

    CHURCH HISTORY: THREE HISTORIC CHRISTIAN CREEDS

    WHAT do you believe? Do you know? Can you verbalize your Christian faith?

    Do you know what your ‘church’ community believes, preaches and witnesses to others?

    Creed, also called confession of faith, an authoritative formulation of the beliefs of a religious community (or, by transference, of individuals). The terms “creed” and “confession of faith” are sometimes used interchangeably, but when distinguished “creed” refers to a brief affirmation of faith employed in public worship or initiation rites, while “confession of faith” is generally used to refer to a longer, more detailed, and systematic doctrinal declaration.

    Lindbeck, George Arthur. “Creed”. Encyclopedia Britannica, 2 Jan. 2020, https://www.britannica.com/topic/creed. Accessed 25 August 2021.

    Confessions

    • A Creed – Your stated faith, basically brief enough to reaffirm in a worship service (whether weekly or occasionally)
    • Confession of Faith – A longer extension of a creed more suited for the study of the Doctrines behind our foundational Christian beliefs stated in a creed.
      • Dismiss any notion that your confession of faith is private ONLY, i.e. your confession of sin may be private, but your Confession of Faith is PUBLIC, not only to your church but especially as witness to Christ in the presence of unbelievers (some sitting among you ‘in church’).
      • And as you can see below, some Confessions have both Short & Long Catechisms
    https://protestantreformation.net/the-westminster-confession-1646-larger-and-shorter-catechisms-1647/

    Catechisms

    • So what is a Catechism?
      • Think of it as a class (really, classes – like going to school) covering what we ought to know about our beliefs.

    YES, there will be a test (usually a public statement to ALL believers of your church that YOU have passed).

    We AFFIRM that we have a reasoned faith in God, Christ Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Trinity; Sin, Judgment and Grace; etc.

    From Judaism to Orthodox Christianity

    Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,

    from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, desiring to be teachers of the law,

    understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.

    First Letter of Paul to Timothy 1:5-7 NKJV
    • * Jews generally agreed by the time of Jesus Christ what Books to include in Scripture.
    • * New Testament Books, ALL written by the end of the first century [A.D. 100], became generally accepted by the Church as the Authoritative Word of God.
      • *Some ‘Extra-Biblical,’ writings after A.D. 100 were written as heretical opposition to the Lord Christ Jesus, even as most of the Apostles had warned in the decades after Christ’s teachings and Ascension.
    • (Reminder:} The Church initially divided into Orthodox (Eastern) and Roman (Catholic, meaning ‘universal’) at the time of the political division of the fallen Roman Empire, then formally after several (7) unified Church councils until A.D. 787 and finally at the Great Schism in A.D. 1084.
      • (Additional DEFINITION of Orthodox: conforming to established doctrine.., conventional..)

    Chronology of Creeds, Confessions, & more

    Of course Christians do NOT agree on everything, but MOST will not DENY the historical and Biblical basic beliefs of Christian faith.

    By looking at some of the foundational creeds and confessions of Christian faith chronologically, you may better understand their role in keeping false teaching out of the Church in the more than two millennia since Christ died for our sins and rose from death on a Cross.

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