Tag: sin

  • How Dare You Defer Discipline 1 Corinthians 6

    How Dare You Defer Discipline 1 Corinthians 6

    Church discipline continues to be the focus of the Apostle’s letter.

    Previously Paul spoke of Judgment between Christ and Satan, but by discipline the Apostle does not mean judgement of Corinthians who do not identify with Christ Jesus. So now Paul INSISTS that the Corinthians judge a fellow church member in this case of moral sin.

    Church Discipline in Moral matters

    Dare G5111 any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust and not before the saints?

    1 Corinthians 6:1 King James Version – Paul’s challenge to judge our fellow believers rather than defer any matter of church discipline to a civil court.

    common era justice mediated as a discipline of civil law discipline deferred to comprise - arbitration hearing

    Strong language from the writ of Judgment by Christ’s Apostle to the gentiles!

    But note Paul’s comparison of the civil court – (Roman law for Corinthians, even as civil common pleas law is practiced in the US and by other Common Era courts).

    The Apostle directs the Corinthians to remain within the jurisdiction of God’s Law indicting common justice as law before the unjust .

    τολμάω - From tolma (boldness, probably itself from the base of τέλος (G5056) through the idea of extreme conduct)

    Paul applies his authoritative instruction of church discipline to what he has just stated.

    It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning.

    Paul’s First Letter to the Corinthians 5:12 New Living Translation

    Clear instruction to the church! Yet how many Common Era christian churches will obey God's word in this?

    God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5:13 NIV


    κρίνωkrinō  – go to Law

    The Apostle presents a case to the Corinthian Church supporting his judgement that THEY should judge their own members and therefore become accountable to the Lord God rather than the civil courts.

    * krinō is a case study in itself in the context of the Gospel and how Jesus Christ instructed disciples and saints to use judgement and discernment differently than the world. Study its linked definitions and see what I mean. God-willing, I may return to it.

    1 Corinthians 6:

    ‘HOW DARE YOU!’ or ‘Dare any of you,’ say some more authoritative English translations.

    Now the Apostle will introduce his gentle case to the saints of the Corinthian Church.

    Don’t you realize that someday we believers will judge the world? – Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians 6:2a NLT

    'But wait!' Paul might quickly follow. 'Not yet and here's why:'

    And since you are going to judge the world, can’t you decide even these little things among yourselves? – 1 Corinthians 6:2b NLT


    Let's glance at a perhaps more palatable explanation from the International Children’s Bible *additional link to the NIRV

    You should be ashamed! Why do you not let God’s people decide who is right? 2 Surely you know that God’s people will judge the world. So if you are to judge the world, then surely you are able to judge small things as well. 3 You know that in the future we will judge angels. So surely we can judge things in this life.

    4 So if you have disagreements that must be judged, why do you take them to those who are not part of the church? They mean nothing to the church. 5 I say this to shame you.

    a Plea for Church Discipline

    Surely there is someone among you wise enough to judge a complaint between two brothers in Christ.

    6 But now one brother goes to court against another brother. And you let men who are not believers judge their case!


    But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers!

    1 Corinthians 6:6 NIV

    It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife.

    1 Corinthians 5:1 NIV

    Spoiled Fruit of deferred Church Discipline

    Will a pagan court, a jury of those condoning and practicing such fornication (porneia) not equate Christ’s saints to common practices of those who worship their self-gratifying gods of the flesh?


    7 When you take another believer to court, you have lost the battle already. Why not be treated wrongly? Why not be cheated?


    The Apostle asks: Are you NOT willing to suffer injustice by the hand of a fellow saint as witness of Jesus' love?

    8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong.

    'Christians,' they say, 'they're not so saintly, but openly sinful, just like us.'

    And you do it to your brothers and sisters.

    Who has died to the flesh?

    9 Don’t you know that people who do wrong will not receive God’s kingdom? Don’t be fooled…

    • 11.. You were made holy.
    • You were made right with God.
    • All of this was done in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
    • It was also done by the Spirit of our God.
    Paul lists additional sins to this single case of one man of the Corinthian Church.
    • (9) Those who commit sexual sins will not receive the kingdom.
    • Neither will those who worship statues of gods
    • or commit adultery.
    • Neither will men who sleep with other men.
    • 10 Neither will thieves
    • or those who always want more and more.
    • Neither will those who are often drunk
    • or tell lies
    • or cheat.

    • People who live like that will not receive God’s kingdom.

    11 Some of you used to do those things. But your sins were washed away.


    Discipline and discernment – Growing up in Christ

    Later in his letter Paul will instruct the Corinthian saints:

    When I was a child, I talked like a child,

    I thought like a child,

    I reasoned like a child.

    When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.

    1 Corinthians 13:11 NIV


    Continuing once more, beloved saints young or mature, from the International Children's Bible
    • 6:12 “I am allowed to do all things.”
      • But not all things are good for me to do.
    • “I am allowed to do all things.” [“I have the right to do anything.”]
      • But I must not do those things that will make me their slave.
        • [But I will not be controlled by anything.]
    • 13 “Food is for the stomach, and the stomach for food.”
      • Yes. But God [theos] will destroy them both.
    • The body is not for sexual immorality [fornication, G4202].
      • The body is for the Lord [kyrios] , and the Lord is for the body.

    Flee fornication. G4202 Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

    1 Corinthians 7:2 King James Version *G4202 – porneia

    Paul will add to this application for the saints of the Corinthian Church:

    Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, G4202 let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

    Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians 7:2 KJV

    God raised the Lord Jesus

    By God’s power God raised the Lord Jesus from death.

    And God will also raise us from death.

    1 Corinthians 6:14 International Children’s Bible

    15 Surely you know that your bodies are parts of Christ himself.

    So I must never take parts of Christ and join them to a prostitute! 16 It is written in the Scriptures,

    “The two people will become one body.”[Genesis 2:24]

    Spoiled Fruit goes to Law

    Paul will next include more delicate matters concerning sexual behavior between men and women, but first the Apostle appeals to the church as members of a holy body, the Temple of God – ONE SPIRIT WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

    But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

    1 Corinthians 6:17 KJV

    Once more, from the International Children's Bible

    So run away from sexual immorality. Every other sin that a person does is outside the body.

    But those who are sexually immoral sin against their own bodies.

    19 You should know that your body is a temple for the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is in you. You have received the Holy Spirit from God. You do not own yourselves.

    20 You were bought by God for a price. So honor God with your bodies.


    NEXT: Married Life of the saints in Christ

    Comment on Scripture – Share the Gospel

  • HOT topics from Galatians – Perversion of the Gospel

    HOT topics from Galatians – Perversion of the Gospel

    Of course when a Bible HEADING for Galatians 1:6 suggests, “Perversion of the Gospel” our twenty-first century first thought is sexual perversion, but this all-inclusive description of unnamed teachers in Galatia encompasses much more.

    Pride in sexual perversion is not only sin, but not the only perversity of rejecting the Gospel of God.

    Perversion of the One Gospel

    Perversion of the Gospel
    6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another..

    Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians 1:6-7a NASB1995

    Although the HEADING of our opening HOT topic is written to church members in Galatia it addresses perversion (which I found above my online KJV) contemporary to our 21st century churches.

    Other English editors of the New Testament identify other helpful descriptions of this problem NOT related to this noun but pointedly to the object of Paul’s complaint – the GOSPEL.

    NASB ‘Distortion of the Gospel;’ ESV ‘No Other Gospel;’ Lexham English Bible ‘A Different Gospel;‘ NKJV ‘Only one Gospel’

    KJV Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

    We find a specific reason for the Apostle beginning his letter with an exhortation. Look at the end of his opening salvo of Galatians 1: verses 6 and 7.

    “.. but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.”

    My dear fellow follower of Christ,
    Could it be less so in these last days of either the KJB (17th century) or now in this year of our Lord 2023?

    μεταστρέφωPervert

    †μεταστρέφω metastréphō, met-as-tref’-o; from G3326 and G4762; to turn across, i.e. transmute or (figuratively) corrupt:—pervert, turn.

    Think about it:

    Perversion (It’s more prevalent than we think it is.)

    Let's get a little more literal from the Greek:

    1:7 ὃ οὐκ ἔστιν ἄλλο εἰ μή τινές εἰσιν οἱ ταράσσοντες ὑμᾶς καὶ θέλοντες μεταστρέψαι τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τοῦ Χριστοῦ

    definition of perversion with synonyms from Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Paul’s preaches his HOT Topic to churches where the Apostle had brought the GOSPEL of the RESURRECTED CHRIST JESUS before. The Apostle once more preaches the same TRUE GOSPEL with urgency in the opening of his epistle to the Galatians.

    ARE YOU CORRUPTED by some now preaching another gospel?


    Galatians 1:

    Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead— 2 and all the brothers who are with me,..

    9 As we have said before, so now I say again:

    If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

    10 For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God?

    Or am I trying to please man?

    If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.

    Beloved believers,
    
    Are YOU now trying to please men and women?
    Does an easier gospel of some other preacher appeal to you?
    
    HAVE YOU so soon turned from serving Jesus Christ as your Lord?

    Paul’s HOT topic to the 1st century Galatians is not to far removed from the contemporary saints of our 21st century churches.


    The Gospel

    IS OURS A TRUE GOSPEL OF CHRIST?

    From the Apostle’s brief introduction:

    the Lord Jesus Christ gave himself for our sins to deliver us from the present evil age

    Certainly this should be GOOD NEWS to those who have not turned from JESUS our One True Savior.

    PAUL HAS PREACHED THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST!

    Does the shepherd of your church preach the GOSPEL OF CHRIST?
    
    (euangelion christos, from the original Greek of New Testament Scripture)
    

    O, you foolish Galatians! Does your church embrace some other gospel than what the APOSTLES preached of CHRIST?

    Servants of Sin or Faith?

    (a choice between culture and Christ)

    YES, Jesus' Disciples, his half-brothers James and Jude, and many other Christians did NOT always get it even AFTER the Lord's resurrection.

    WE too may miss the Gospel of Christ when everyday culture confronts our everyday faith.

    Roger@TalkofJesus.com
    Galatians 2:

    9b ..we [Paul and Barnabas] should go to the Gentiles and they [the Twelve and James] to the circumcised.

    This refers back to the Letter they brought to the Gentiles earlier from the Council in Jerusalem. BUT NOW, the clashes of culture slip back into the religion of religious leaders.

    Paul Opposes Peter
    11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles; but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party. 13 And the rest of the Jews acted hypocritically along with him, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. 14 But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all,

    “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?”

    That's the real cultural issue isn't it?

    YOU can’t force YOUR RELIGION on anyone.

    WE cannot serve Christ by denying Jesus as our Lord so that WE may fit into a culture turned away from grace and the Good News of God. THAT would be apostasy!

    To be continued…


    NEXT: HOT topic #2 from the Apostle's epistle to the Galatians - Apostasy
    

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    Comment on Scripture – Share the Gospel

  • What’s good about Good Friday?

    What’s good about Good Friday?

    15 April, in the year of our Lord, 2022:

    Looking for a question that will trip-up nearly any 21st c. christian?

    And since I have answered it before rather than answering it yet once more today on this GOOD FRIDAY, I will point you (my christian, jewish and anti-Christ friends) to previous Good Friday posts on which perhaps you might comment (publicly or privately) in this year of our Lord 2022.

    Why do you call a day JESUS was killed on a Cross good; what GOOD is it to you or for me?

    Look at the NEWS of today (and I dare say NONE of it is Good News.’

    CLICK FOR example of BBC World News
    
    • Is ‘god’ even news-worthy?
    • Does your local forecast not give more credibility to Mother Nature?
    • Even TgIF may soon give way to some new credit.

    It’s GUNS that kill, COVID which kills, FOSSIL FUELS will kill, the OTHER political party who kills everything right & GOOD!

    Tell me, How can JESUS make anything about TODAY good?


    GOD IS GOOD (Believe Him; or not)

    Will you believe David?

    19:1 למנצח מזמור לדוד׃ (19:2) השמים מספרים כבוד־אל ומעשה ידיו מגיד הרקיע׃

    Masoretic Text Psalm 19:1-2

    The heavens tell of the glory of God;
    And their expanse declares the work of His hands.

    Psalm 19:1b NASB20 – The Works and the Word of God.

    Will you believe Moses? מֹשֶׁה

    וַיַּרְא יִשְׂרָאֵל אֶת־הַיָּד הַגְּדֹלָה אֲשֶׁר עָשָׂה יְהוָה בְּמִצְרַיִם וַיִּֽירְאוּ הָעָם אֶת־יְהוָה וַיַּֽאֲמִינוּ בַּֽיהוָה וּבְמֹשֶׁה עַבְדּֽוֹ׃ פ

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/nasb20/exo/14/31/t_conc_64031

    When Israel saw the great power which the LORD had used against the Egyptians, the people feared the LORD, and they believed in the LORD and in His servant Moses.

    Exodus 14: Now the LORD spoke to Moses..:31

    This is the victory of the LORD after His Passover of good woshipers among the Hebrews when the LORD killed the firstborns of the land. 

    Will you believe the [Gospel] GOOD NEWS of John 5?

    “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in the same way..

    “For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes. For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, so that all will honor the Son just as they honor the Father..

    You examine the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is those very Scriptures that testify about Me..

    Yet truthfully -- and sadly -- not only do many jews no longer believe Scripture, but too many 'evangelical christians' no longer hold to the Way, the Truth & the Life of the Scriptures either.
    

    “How can you believe, when you accept glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God?

    “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

    Gospel of John 5:45[46]-47 NASB20 + Challenge of the Messiah Jesus to those who refuse to believe Scripture.

    Will you believe the Bible?

    The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU.”

    Galatians 3:8

    All Scripture is [God-breathed] inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for [reprimand] rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man or woman of God may be [proficient] fully capable, equipped for every good work.

    2 Timothy 3:16-17 NASB20

    Why don’t YOU Talk of JESUS?

    • I don’t talk of GOD.
    • I don’t care about the Israel of David.
    • I don’t think Moses applies anymore.
    • Certainly JESUS is not GOOD NEWS for most!
    • I do NOT believe the the BIBLE is TRUTH (for me).

    IF these are YOUR excuses to say that GOOD FRIDAY is NOT GOOD NEWS for YOU, you will not want to Talk of JESUS [HERE, or anywhere else].

    For salvation is only for those the Lord will choose as His faithful remnant who will believe.

    Good Friday’s past

    PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS [privately or publically] OR any of my previous posts which include, of course, OTHER GOOD Fridays and RESURRECTION SUNDAYS. - rh 
    Good Friday in the year of our Lord, 2021
    Good Friday in the year of our Lord, 2015 + Roger’s personal witness to the Holy Spirit of God

    And don’t miss yesterday’s post:

    14 April in the year of our Lord, 2022