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  • Did God really say, Church?

    Did God really say, Church?

    Yes! God said, “CHURCH.”

    Let’s be clear up front. I can assure you through Scripture (the written word of God we call THE BIBLE) that our Creator said, “Church.”

    So that we are on the same page (so to speak) I will get to a written definition of Church shortly. But first — and perhaps more importantly — I have a question to ask YOU.

    WHO is Asking?

    • Why is THIS important?

    • Does the person asking you about “Church“ really want to know what God said?

    • OR

    • Is this question of theirs a veiled dismissal of God
      • AND built on a premise opposed to the Authority of God’s Word?

    Who believes that God created the CHURCH?

    FIRST: Most likely NO ONE has asked you about your “church.”

    If you made a list including one hundred [100] from your neighborhood, work and extended family,

    • HOW MANY would even ASK YOU ANYTHING about CHURCH or GOD or Jesus Christ?

    Perhaps, one? 

    (Not even Christians of our church typically engage each other in conversation about 'church'  beyond the walls of the church building or in our mortal time beyond a single worship service duplicated twice on Sunday.)

    SECONDLY: IF you ever hear a person ask you about your ‘church‘ and Scripture ,

    ASK YOURSELF, “WHO IS ASKING?”

    You probably know several variations of the original QUESTION directly from your Bible.

    וְהַנָּחָשׁ הָיָה עָרוּם מִכֹּל חַיַּת הַשָּׂדֶה אֲשֶׁר עָשָׂה יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים וַיֹּאמֶר אֶל־הָאִשָּׁה אַף כִּֽי־אָמַר אֱלֹהִים לֹא תֹֽאכְלוּ מִכֹּל עֵץ הַגָּֽן׃

    Bereishit (Genesis) 3:1 :: Westminster Leningrad Codex (WLC)
    Of course most of us cannot read the original so we must rely on a translation of Scripture (me included)-- but (keep in mind) -- 

NO man or woman can claim truth while they reconstruct Scripture into words they want the Bible to say. 

WORDS have both meaning and intent. Therefore a preacher or teacher of the BIBLE MUST stick to preaching or teaching from a reliable English translation AND NOT SUBSTITUTE your own 'better,' less-offensive words.

The BIG QUESTION of THE DECEIVER goes something like the reconstruction by Satan sketched out (and linked) below.

    Does the preacher of the Word who shepherds your church have the integrity to ALWAYS use the written word of God from the Bible as written?

    Roger@TalkofJESUS.com [Your response or question by email is welcome.]

    Questioning and Reconstructing God’s Word

    An example from Genesis 3:

    Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.

    And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said,

    Genesis 3:1b NASB95

    ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?”

    Again, WATCH OUT! Whenever you hear anyone ask, 'has God said...'

    “Church“

    Call it what you like, but different people mean different things when they say, ‘church.’

    This is so even for members or attenders of the very same church. So let’s settle on some standard definitions of our references to ‘the church.’

    ἐκκλησία – ek-klay-see’-ah [feminine noun]

    Strong’s G1577 – ekklēsia [click for complete definition of ‘church’]

    • a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place

    No mention of the ‘church building’ here, although this ‘public place’ could be a building, tent, other home or anywhere two or three ‘citizens’ are gathered together.

    And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; G1577 and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    Gospel of Matthew 16:18 KJV – first use of the word ‘church‘ G1537 ekklēsia in the New Testament

    Christians and unbelievers alike think of CHURCH as an exclusive reference to a building or place where JESUS worshipers gather together as a ‘religious’ routine typically on Sunday only.

    However, a deeper look into how ‘church’ is used in the Bible — Old Testament AND New — will reveal a more significant connection of this ‘gathering of citizens’ to the LORD God.

    Gather me the people together – קָהַל

    The summons or call to worship is from the LORD Himself!

    The first reference to the ‘church’ or gathering in the Greek Septuagint comes from the LORD through Moses. Each assembly of the hebrew people, the citizens called out of Egypt and frequently out of their tents in the wilderness, was called by the LORD GOD.

    The LORD calls out the CHURCH, a chosen company of worshipers of the LORD our God. 

    View a link to these references from the Septuagint in the common Greek of the first century Roman Empire when Israel no longer existed and JESUS taught in Galilee, Samaria and Judea.

    “Remember the day you stood before the LORD your God at Horeb, when the LORD said to me, ‘Assemble the people to Me, that I may have them hear My words so that they may learn to fear Me all the days that they live on the earth, and that they may teach their children.’

    Deuteronomy 4:10

    “The LORD gave me the two tablets of stone written by the finger of God; and on them were all the words which the LORD had spoken with you at the mountain from the midst of the fire on the day of the assembly..

    “This is in accordance with everything that you asked of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, saying, ‘Do not let me hear the voice of the LORD my God again, and do not let me see this great fire anymore, or I will die!’

    Deuteronomy 9:10; 18:16

    It’s pretty serious business:

    However, the LORD said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against Me, I will wipe him out of My book. But go now, lead the people where I told you. Behold, My angel shall go before you; nevertheless on the day when I punish, I will punish them for their sin.”

    Exodus 32:33-34 NASB20

    — a chosen citizenry created in the image of the LORD against whom they turn (again and again)

    שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד׃

    “And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

    Devarim (Deuteronomy) 6:4 :: WLC; 6:5 NASB20

    Then God said, “Behold, I am going to make a covenant. Before all your people I will perform miracles which have not been produced in all the earth nor among any of the nations; and all the people among whom you live will see the working of the LORD, for it is a fearful thing that I am going to perform with you.

    Exodus 34:10 NASB20

    — the LAW of the LORD our God (broken again and again)

    “Be careful that you do not make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land into which you are going, or it will become a snare in your midst.

    Exodus 34:12 NASB20

    — covenant, solemn promise after solemn promise (broken again and again)

    “For when I bring them into the land flowing with milk and honey, which I swore to their fathers, and they eat and are satisfied and become prosperous, then they will turn to other gods and serve them, and spurn Me and break My covenant.

    Deuteronomy 31:20 NASB20

    AND even in the New Testament

    — an often apostate church continually asking, “DID GOD REALLY SAY?“

    I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel, which is not just another account; but there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.

    Paul’s letter to the Church at Galatia 1:6-7 NASB20

    Did Scripture really say..?

    Second Letter of Paul to Timothy

    3:12 Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

    YES, God — JESUS — really did say, CHURCH.

    Scripture — spoken by the LORD, written in the Law and the Prophets, preached by the Lord Jesus Christ, taught by the Apostles — Scripture affirms Christ’s Church already built by HIM and in no need of tearing down out of a lack of faith.

    All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man [messenger] of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

    2 Timothy 3:16-17 ESV

    Why do you ask?

    "Did God really say, Church?" is our first post for a NEW TalkofJESUS.com SERIES, addressing philosophies and questions underlying intentional deconstruction of the 21st Century Church.

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  • Honor and Glory be to God in the Highest

    Honor and Glory be to God in the Highest

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Mz-LoA0Ds
    Honor and Glory 1 min 44 sec

    A protest song?

    I grew up in the 1960’s, a time full of protest songs. And this was one of my favorites, an a capella version in English from a German composer.

    So what qualifies this as a protest song? BACH was a Protestant.

    For years his hymns and music heavily taken from Scripture were banned from the Roman Catholic church (although now, Bach is back even in Catholic worship).

    To the King of of the ages

    You may have heard today’s short take on Scripture as a benediction of worship:

    Now to the King [lit. of the ages] eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory [lit. to the ages of the ages] forever and ever. Amen.

    1 Timothy 1:17 NASB20

    And the Protest?

    ..fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith.

    1 Timothy 1:81b-19 NASB20

    Even some who claim Christ will not give honor to the Father and glory to God in the Highest.

    Do you agree, disagree or have an example?

    Glora to God Alone the life of JS Bach

    To learn more about Bach and his faith listen here.

  • Creeds, Catechism, Confessions & Christ – What does your church teach?

    Creeds, Catechism, Confessions & Christ – What does your church teach?

    Credo, meaning, “I believe.” 

    Catechism – Teaching Church Doctrine summarized by Questions & Answers, formal teaching of Doctrines to members of a Church utilizing verbal recitation of questions and answers.

    Do you really believe that? doctrine - a line in the sand [picture of Jesus kneeling down to draw a line with his finger

    Creed – I believe this.. Confession of Faith – We (the church) believe this.. & Catechism – Our church teaches these Doctrines: 1.. 2.. 3.. etc.

    Last week in our series on Doctrine I defined and shared a brief look at Creeds. We discovered that a Creed is simply a brief statement of what you (supposedly) believe. And while some churches ritually repeat these as part of worship, every church has an underlying defined set of beliefs preached to the masses and taught to the uninitiated.

    Creeds, Catechisms, Confessions & Christ – What do you believe?
    Confession that Jesus is κύριος – Lord would have been a first Creed of the Way (Christians).

    What does your church believe?

    After glancing at a few Creeds and Confessions of faith do you now know more about what you believe and what your church believes and preaches?

    New believers and children are far more likely to have heard the catechism of your church than a casual weekly ‘worshiper’ gathering for its music and preaching. YES, every church has a catechism (whether veiled, indoctrinated or responsibly taught to its members).

    You likely have a few questions of your own (& please do not hesitate to share your question via a comment to this post).

    Christian Catechism 100

    Allow me to ask you just a few questions you might have heard and can answer from a catechism of your church.

    Some will recognize that a 100 series in teaching addresses pre-requisite knowledge; therefore your answers may come more readily to these selective catechism questions than from a 'Catechism 803'theology course. 

Note that your children may be taught more than these in their second or third year of 'Sunday School' or a Christian Academy you have chosen for them in lieu of a 'public' school indoctrinating ALL with world-class 'education.'

    Do YOU know the answers to your children’s’ catechism questions?

    1. What is the Trinity?
    2. Who is the Holy Spirit?
    3. What is the Law of God and what does it require?
    4. What is sin?
    5. What is idolatry?
    6. What happens when we die?
    7. Will all be saved to eternal life?
    8. Who is Christ?
    9. What is the resurrection?
    10. How does Christ redeem me from sin?

    Bonus Question: What makes the Bible Holy?

    BIBLE DOCTRINE BRING THEOLOGY TO LIFE

    What do YOU believe?

    Catechism? You get the idea from these sample questions above.

    Proverbs 22:6

    Catechism is teaching.

    Even when he grows older he will not abandon it.

    Preaching and Teaching

    Christians hold to and teach a reasoned faith.

    Through our study of the Holy Bible, Christians Creeds and Confessions of Faith we grow in our confidence in the Lord God and Jesus Christ, and by the Holy Spirit we continue in the confidence of our salvation God has predestined for those faithful followers of Christ Jesus.

    But before we look at Catechisms, let’s briefly define preaching and teaching, comparing their distinct yet parallel roles in the lives of the Church.

    Preaching

    The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim H7121 liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

    To proclaim H7121 the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

    KJV Strong’s H7121 matches the Hebrew קָרָא (qārā’). “preach*” AND “H7121“ Yeshaiya (Isaiah) 61:1-2 [WLC link]

    Hebrew definition – to call, call out, recite, read, cry out, proclaim;

    • preach, (make) proclaim(-ation), pronounce, publish, read, renowned, say.
    • from קָרָא qârâʼ, kaw-raw’; a primitive root (rather identical with H7122 through the idea of accosting a person (metaphor); to call out to 

    but we preach G2784 Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block, and to Gentiles foolishness,

    Strong’s G2784 – κηρύσσω kērýssō, kay-roos’-so; of uncertain affinity; to herald (as a public crier), especially divine truth (the gospel):—preacher(-er), proclaim, publish. – 1 Corinthians 1:20 NASB20
    • Greek definition used of the public proclamation of the gospel and matters pertaining to it, made by John the Baptist, by Jesus, by the apostles and other Christian teachers

    Teaching

    Now note from this New Testament letter of Paul to Timothy (written in Greek) some particular similarities and differences between preachers and teachers. (We will not dig into the many doctrines covered in these few verses.)

    2 Timothy

    .. For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline. Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord or of me His prisoner, but join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the power of God, who saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was granted to us in Christ Jesus from all eternity, but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,

    for which I was appointed a preacher, an apostle, and a teacher.

    2 Timothy 1:11 NASB20
    • κῆρυξ – a preacher – a herald, i.e. of divine truth (especially of the gospel):—preacher.
    • ἀπόστολος – an apostle – a delegate, messenger, one sent forth with orders
    • διδάσκαλος – a teacher – in the NT one who teaches concerning the things of God, and the duties of man
      • From διδάσκω (G1321) – .. to hold discourse with others in order to instruct them, to impart instruction,
        • instill doctrine into one.. to explain or expound a thing, to teach one something

    Catechism & Teaching Doctrine

    The Creeds, Catechisms and Confessions are useful study tools to assist in understanding the Scriptures and in teaching Bible studies to others. These documents help to reaffirm the tenants of the traditional, historic Christian faith.

    BlueLetterBible.org – source for most definitions of this post – RH

    Why Catechisms MUST reflect Biblical Authority ABOVE all Church authority

    The following article and resource originally ran on July 8, 2018. A few weeks later, Pope Francis announced a redaction of the 1992 Catechism of the Catholic Church..

    RESOURCE: Traditional Catholic Catechisms [Updated]

    Catechisms included here reflect the doctrines and teachings of traditional Christian Protestant Denominations. – RH

    Luther’s Small Catechism of 1529

    Luther wrote his little catechism for parents to instruct their children in the faith just as he wrote his larger catechism as remedial instruction for pastors. Catechism in its Latin form means “book of instruction.”

    From its Greek roots, catechism means literally “sounding down in the ears” or, more pointedly, “indoctrination” in the Christian faith.

    source: St Matthew’s Evangelical Lutheran Church

    For Martin Luther, basic catechesis (doctrinal instruction) in the Christian faith refers to teaching children (and their parents!) the Ten Commandments, the Apostles’ Creed, the Lord’s Prayer, and the biblical basis for Baptism, Eucharist, and Confession.

    Although the complete Catechisms may be read on secure links, ONLY a few EXAMPLES of KEY DOCTRINAL TEACHING can be included in this brief post. - RH

    Heidelberg Catechism of 1563

    • 128 questions & answers; later,129 questions and answers were divided into 52 “Lord’s Days” with a view to the Catechism’s being explained in one of the services on the Lord’s Day.

    Here is the typical Q & A format with Scriptural references supporting the Authority of each answer:

    Question 1. What is thy only comfort in life and death?

    PAUSE: IF you yourself have never heard this or considered this life and death question, 
NOW might be a good time to pray for an answer (prior to reading the Scripturally supported ANSWER below). - RH
    Answer:

    That I with body and soul, both in life and death,a am not my own,b but belong unto my faithful Saviour Jesus Christ;c who, with his precious blood, has fully satisfied for all my sins,d and delivered me from all the power of the devil;e and so preserves mef that without the will of my heavenly Father, not a hair can fall from my head;g yea, that all things must be subservient to my salvation,h and therefore, by his Holy Spirit, He also assures me of eternal life,i and makes me sincerely willing and ready, henceforth, to live unto him.j

    Answer to Question 1 of the Heidelberg Catechism – a-j notes to Scriptural references
    Scripture References:

    (a) Rom 14:7-8 (b) 1Co 6:19 (c) 1Co 3:23; Tts 2:14 (d) 1Pe 1:18-19; 1Jo 1:7; 1Jo 2:2; 1Jo 2:12 (e) Hbr 2:14; 1Jo 3:8; Jhn 8:34-36 (f) Jhn 6:39; Jhn 10:28; 2Th 3:3; 1Pe 1:5 (g) Mat 10:29-31; Luk 21:18 (h) Rom 8:28 (i) 2Co 1:20-22; 2Co 5:5; Eph 1:13-14; Rom 8:16; 1Jo 3:3 (j) Rom 8:14; 1Jo 3:3

    Heidelberg Catechism of 1563: The First Part – Of the Misery of Man

    Here is ANSWER to my combined QUESTION #3 above from Questions 3 & 4.

    Trinity and True Faith

    Let’s cut to the chase (so to speak). Scripture WARNS of false preaching and false teachers in the last days.

    Again, from 2 Timothy 3:1-5 NLT

    You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. For people will love only themselves and their money.

    • They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful.
    • They will consider nothing sacred.
    • They will be unloving and unforgiving;
    • they will slander others and have no self-control.
    • They will be cruel and hate what is good.
    • They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God.
    • They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly.

    Stay away from people like that!

    Heidelberg Catechism of 1563: The Second Part – Of Man’s Deliverance

    Trinity and the true faith of Scripture as expressed in Creeds caution the church (or the saints {small ‘s’} in these life and death matters. For these are matters concerning ETERNAL LIFE with the Lord or the God-given punishment of Hell and Death deserved by ALL.

    • Question 12: Answer: God will have his justice satisfied: and therefore we must make this full satisfaction, either by ourselves, or by another.
    • Question 16. Why must he be very man, and also perfectly righteous?
    • Question 17. Why must he in one person be also very God?

    Here (among other doctrines) is where false teachers DENY TRINITY & refuse to teach the Very Truth of Scripture.

    If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.”

    Gospel of John 10: Question of the Jews as Jesus was walking in the temple area, in the portico of Solomon.

    “I and the Father are one.”

    The Word of Jesus Christ from the Gospel of John
    • Question 22. What is then necessary for a christian to believe?
    • Answer: All things promised us in the gospel,a which the articles of our catholic undoubted christian faith briefly teach us.
    • References: (a) Jhn 20:31; Mat 28:19; Mar 1:15

    What follows as the answer to Question 23 is THE APOSTLES CREED.

    1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth:
    2. And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord:
    3. Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary:

    TRINITY, from the beginning – Father, begotten Son and Holy Ghost [or Holy Spirit].

    • Question 25. Since there is but one only divine essence,(a) why speakest thou of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost?
    • Answer: Because God has so revealed himself in his word,(b) that these three distinct persons are the one only true and eternal God.
    • References:
      • (a) Deu 6:4; Eph 4:6; Isa 44:6; Isa 45:5; 1Co 8:4; 1Co 8:6
      • (b) Isa 61:1; Luk 4:18; Gen 1:2; Gen 1:3; Psa 33:6; Isa 48:16; Psa 110:1; Mat 3:16; Mat 3:17; Mat 28:19; 1Jo 5:7; Isa 6:1; Isa 6:3; Jhn 14:26; John 15:26; 2Co 13:13; Gal 4:6; Eph 2:18; Tts 3:5; Tts 3:6

    Heidelberg Catechism of 1563: The Second Part – Of God the Son

    Question 29. Why is the Son of God called “Jesus”, that is a Saviour?

    Answer: Because he saveth us, and delivereth us from our sins;(a) and likewise, because we ought not to seek, neither can find salvation in any other.(b)

    References: (a) Mat 1:21; Hbr 7:24-25 (b) Act 4:12; Jhn 15:4-5; 1Ti 2:5; Isa 43:11; 1Jo 5:11

    Now the birth of Jesus the [From Gr Christos, which means Messiah (Heb for Anointed One)] Messiah was as follows: .. an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph.. that which has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. “She will give birth to a Son; and you shall name Him Jesus, for He himself will save His people from their sins.”

    The Gospel of Matthew excerpt from 1:18a,20b,d,v.21

    This section of the Heidelberg Catechism of the 16th century asks students of true faith a question still relevant to you, to me and to every 21st century Christian:

    (I'll paraphrase question 32 to update the translation from German into the King's English used in the KJV.)
[Time to PAUSE & think through your reasoned Christian faith before you answer the KEY QUESTION below.]
    • Do YOU, my 21st century brother (or sister) in Christ have an answer of your Christian witness?
    • Is the Doctrine (teaching or catechism) from which you learned your answer based on Holy Scripture?

    Why are you called a Christian?

    References: (a) Act 11:26

    Because I am a member of Christ by faith;

    References: (b) 1Co 6:15

    therefore I share in His anointing

    References: (c) 1Jo 2:27; Act 2:17

    so that I may confess Jesus’ name

    References: (d) Mat 10:32; Rom 10:10; Mar 8:38

    and offer myself a living sacrifice of thankfulness to him.

    References: (e) Rom 12:1; 1Pe 2:5; 1Pe 2:9; Rev 5:8; Rev 5:10; Rev 1:6

    As a Christian with a free and good conscience I may fight against sin and Satan in this life;

    References: (f) 1Pe 2:11 Rom 6:12-13; Gal 5:16-17; Eph 6:11; 1Ti 1:18-19

    and after this mortal life, Christ may choose me to reign with him eternally, over all creatures.

    References: (g) 2Ti 2:12; Mat 24:34

*Complete Scripture will open in BlueLetterBible.org as you read each Question, Answer & Reference. I recommend it for your further prayer and study. RH

    The statement is trustworthy:
    For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him;

    If we endure, we will also reign with Him;
    If we will deny Him, He will also deny us;

    2 Timothy 2:11-12 NASB20
    child reading Holy Bible - God's Personal Love

    Are you a Christian?

    Do you believe the teaching of the Holy Bible and the Word of God?

    Let the one who does wrong still do wrong, and the one who is filthy still be filthy;

    and let the one who is righteous still practice righteousness, and the one who is holy still keep himself holy.”

    “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to reward each one as his work deserves.

    I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

    The Revelation of Jesus Christ to the Apostle John 22:11-13 NASB

    “It is written in the Prophets: ‘AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.

    John 6:45 NASB – The Words and Good News of Jesus Christ
    Doctrine - a line in the sand Creeds, Catechisms, Confessions & Christ – What do you believe?
    What does your church teach?

    “Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who believes has eternal life.

    John 6:47 – The Word of the Lord
    AFFIRM this DOCTRINE
    DENY this DOCTRINE